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title: '2022 04 29: Open Belgium 2022, Ghent'
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# 2022 04 29: Open Belgium 2022, Ghent

###### tags: `events osm be`

See also [osm at open belgium 2019](https://hackmd.io/IGEaMVXFTFCGcLkX4Z6wIg?view)

And [current newsworthy topics](https://hackmd.io/TGkHNPheQOGx9KDRl_yYVA?view)


## To do?
- bring [business cards](https://hackmd.io/cNC4NUM2ROGpp07YdONxWQ?view) (@thibault)
- [post event OSM meetup](https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/284091798/): book a place & time
- [x] invites for core members
- share call for papers
- organize a table
    - Jonathan has banner and t-shirts and stickers
    - Joost: bring hiviz vest & stickers
    - Joost asked core team for a big screen > to be re-checked!
    - meet with team by lunchtime at the latest

## OSM program

- Pin je Punt - Jos Pyck & Seppe Santens
- hiking.osm.be - Julien Minet
- OpenStreetMap goes professional - Joost Schouppe
- Creating open streetlevel imagery - Seppe Santens
- Better data for all by combining OpenStreetMap and government data management: Road Completion - Joost Schouppe


### OpenStreetMap goes professional
- mapping fietssnelwegen 
- corporate membership 
- talent pool
- contacts with small and large orgs to make the switch to osm easier (and the role of MapComplete)

### Better data for all by combining OpenStreetMap and government data management: Road Completion
* quickly explain the basics
    * workflow
    * animated gif
* Show our progress
* Show example feedback for Digitaal Vlaanderen
    * screenshot
    * stats with processed feedback
    * new feedback





## Talk suggestions: 

### CANCELED panel talk about open streetlevel imagery

There are very many users who need pictures of the streets. Government need them for daily operations. Path preservers need them to document the existance of paths. OpenStreetMap needs them to add detail to their map.

Still, there has never been open data streetlevel imagery untill the OpenStreetMap community and some others started crowdsourcing them. In Flanders, there used to be street level imagery available for the government only. This project has stopped. Since then, the landscape has been divided. This means a duplication of effort and a lack of universal coverage.

Is it possible to create more street level imagery as open knowledge? What is stopping the government to do this? What makes this hard to do for the private sector? Does this need to change? And how do we do that?


Write out the idea and start recruting!
- Vansteelandt Koen.vanderweerden@vansteelandt.be > they said NO ; Fluvius
- WVI (West-Vlaamse intercommunale)
- Somebody from Flemish political level to share their vision (via Thierry?)
- A non-OSM user, e.g. Dirk Dedoncker (mobility consultant from Halle)
- a municipality (like Ham)

### OSM for tourism

#### SEPPE IS SUBMITTING Building a crowd you can trust with Visit Flanders



**Abstract**
Visit Flanders has been publishing open data of walking and cycling networks for about 10 years. Recently, a new data need was put forward by their partners in the private sector. People were looking for places to rest along their walking routes or they were looking for places to charge their e-bike along a bicycle trip. The data for these points of interest were scattered over many different sources or even unexisting up till now. Visit Flanders decided they could help the crowd to collect these data without them having to own the result. Together with OpenStreetMap Belgium and the MapComplete team, the tool "Pin je Punt" was built that allows local partners to add their local data. Visit Flanders facilitates, validates and publishes the data for their end users.


The project will be introduced by Visit Flanders. A very brief description of the technical solution will be given by Pieter Vander Vennet, lead MapComplete developer. We close with the point of view of the data consumer.

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Visit Flanders was confronted with a new data need from their partners in the private sector, for example bicycle charging stations. They decided they could help the crowd collect this data without them having to own the result. Together with OpenStreetMap Belgium and the MapComplete team, a tool was built that allows local partners to add their local data. Visit Flanders facilitates, validates and publishes the data for their end users.

The project will be introduced by Visit Flanders. A very brief technical description will be given by Pieter Vander Vennet, lead MapComplete developer. We close with the point of view of the data consumer.

We will also facilitate a workshop in two parts:
- teach the use of the tool
- re-use of the tool: how it can work for different themes, how you can use it to validate and integrate your own data


**Workshop**
- pinjepunt gebruiken
- dieper ingaan op technische luik
- uitnodigen voor meetup


#### Content schematics

**De Boodschap:**
Het is niet omdat je een overheid bent dat je de data volledig in house moet willen verzamelen.


NOOD (Jos)
* datanood vanuit hergebruikers van datasets van ToerismeVlaanderen (Jos)
* elke partner heeft wel een stukje van de data, maar alles zit verspreid en de data zijn onvolledig

HOE CONCEPTUEEL (Jos)
* kan en moet de overheid alle interessante data zelf verzamelen?
    * Iedereen is alleen bezig op zijn picknicktafels (groenzoeker, fietsnetwerkbeheerders, gemeentes,...)
* waarom niet crowdsourcing gebruiken om de data te maken in een ander model?
    * crowd is niet gewoon "burger", maar ook allerlei overheden die anders moeilijk in één toepassing/dataset te vatten zijn
* hoe een crowd bouwen? Opzet van een campagne (hier of in volgende luik?)
* waarom zelf een databank/tool gaan bouwen? Er is ook een crowd-based tool en een crowd-based databank van de wereld! Met een hele community die aan data-curatie doet

HOE TECHNISCH (Pieter)
* de tools zijn beschikbaar om dit gemakkelijk te maken voor iedereen
    * MapComplete: geen achtergrondkennis nodig
    * MapComplete: modulair, niet telkens van nul beginnen
    * elk project, nieuwe features: hier nieuwe "import" flow

RESULTATEN
![](https://i.imgur.com/kU2UQLG.png)
*  hoeveel gebruikers, hoeveel punten

OUTCOME (Seppe)
* hoe hergebruik in de praktijk gemakkelijk wordt gemaakt
    * gedrukte kaart WestToer
    * WFS services om te verdelen
    * nadruk dus op meer dan "automatisch in basemap"

LEARNINGS (Seppe)
* de kwaliteit van de overheidsdata is vaak lager dan verwacht door de overheid zelf
    * "Maintaining high quality datasets is hard work"
* overheid werkt te vaak op eilandjes
    * "Many hands (can) make light work"
* campagne voeren heeft niet zoveel impact als gedacht, met name bij gemeenten
    * "Focus on reuse is still new for government"
    * bal wel degelijk aan het rollen ("The future is bright")
    * project is op papier reeds afgelopen


Zeker verwijzen naar Workshop!

#### original content

topics:
- Why Westtoer uses OSM and you should too
- Pin je punt (Toerisme Vlaanderen)
- interested: Seppe will lead, Pieter VDVN, Joost; Jos from Toerisme Vlaanderen

Doelstelling: inspireren, maar ook overtuigen: dat "de overheid moet niet alles in house doen"
Voorbeeld: POI databank die geïntegreerd worden hebben ook hun issues, zelfs als ze overheid zelf denkt dat de data goed zijn
Vandalisme: kan het begin van een mooi verhaal zijn





### hiking.osm.be and OpenArdenneMap paper maps
- submitted by Julien Minet

### OSM in general + MapComplete
SUBMITTED BY JOOST
Professionalization
- mapping fietssnelwegen 
- corporate membership 
- talent pool
- contacts with small and large orgs to make the switch to osm easier (and the role of MapComplete)

Struggle for open
- 360

Mapping away 
- road completion 
- building import
- traffic sign project
- GR quality assurance tool
- keeping paths on the map 






