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# WG Meeting: 2022-05-31
## Agenda
- Intros and Reintros
- Updates from recent events (IIW, EIC)
- Credential Compromise & sharing deleted passwords by IDPs (Tom Sato VeriClouds)
- Status of drafts


## Attendees
- Tim Cappalli (Microsoft Identity, co-chair)
- Tom Sato (VeriClouds)
- Topher Marie (Strata Identity)
- Martin Gallo (SecureAuth)
- Stan Bounev (VeriClouds)
- Andrii Deinega (GlobalLogic)
- Nancy Cam-Winget (Cisco)

## Notes

### Intros
- Topher Marie, CTO at Strata Identity, interested in CAEP

### Updates from recent events (IIW, EIC)
- {Tom} IIW was interesting. Session revoked
- {Tim} SSE is likely too heavy for just the 3PC deprecation logout use case. OIDC Backchannel Logout and FedCM are likely the better solution
- {Andrii} RP needs to notify the OP that the RP session is no longer active. This is not covered by BC or FC logout specs today. 
- {Tim} Might be a good topic for Connect working group
- {Martin} Similar issues with SAML for logout. SSE might be overkill
- {Tim} Recommend to join W3C Federated ID CG to discuss these issues: https://www.w3.org/community/fed-id/
- {Tim} SCIM working group new draft for events: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-scim-scim-events-02
- {Nancy} published a blog about SSE and OPA - https://blogs.cisco.com/security/revisiting-the-session-the-potential-for-shared-signals
- {Tim} Discussed at OSW. Planning to move ahead with complex subject moving into its own spec.
- {Tim} Panel session happening at Identiverse: https://identiverse.com/idv2022/session/841471/

### Credential Compromise & sharing deleted passwords by IDPs

{Tom}
- Presented at IIW about deleted passwords
- Problematic to send actual password
- Proposal to use a verification token mechanism that obfuscates the password, both authorized parties can compare
- Open questions for IDaaS community
    - Typically these passwords are encrypted and/or hashed in the database
- Talking to governments about whether they'd like to receive these events. 
    - Positive responses so far
    - Global hub model for organizations to participate in using SSE
    - road show in June, also Identiverse


## Action Items
- Review Shayne's PR on stream configuration (https://github.com/openid/sse/pull/9)
- {Tim} Update site with current status of each draft
- {Tim} Get Mark Hayne on next cal to talk about complex subject spin out and pending verification use case
- {Tim} Follow up on RISC spec ID process