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title: Meeting Notes 2025-04-22
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# Meeting Notes 2025-04-22

## Attendees
* omrig
* Michiel Trimpe
* Alex Babeanu
* Jeff Lombardo
* Victor Lu
* David Brossard
* Gerry Gebel
* Vladi Berger
* George Fletcher
* Elie Azerad
* Dave Hyland

## Agenda

- Draft 03 published at https://openid.net/specs/authorization-api-1_0-03.html and also at https://openid.net/wg/authzen/specifications/
- Review latest on the Identiverse interop (David - 20 min)
    - https://hackmd.io/RtM2PNfbTs-J8X_1CZeRsQ?view
    - payload document
    - test harness
- Remaining open issues needing resolution before Final (Omri - 10 min)
  - `context.reason` in the response: this whole area is confusing in the spec, and either overspecified or underspecified.  We have 5 open issues that relate to this. Owner: David.
  - discuss JWT profile for subject identifiers (https://github.com/openid/authzen/issues/248) - do we want to move this work forward? Should it be a profile or in the main spec? Owner: Omri.
  - additions to search response - https://github.com/openid/authzen/issues/229 and https://github.com/openid/authzen/issues/230. Owner: Omri.
  - evaluations semantics discussion: https://github.com/openid/authzen/issues/250
  - "policy routing" - e.g. https://github.com/openid/authzen/issues/164. Owner: Omri.
- Update on Partial Evaluation draft, decision on whether it is a must-have for Final or whether we can proceed on it in parallel / separate document (David - 10 min)
- Metadata discovery - review Jeff's proposal (Jeff - 15 min)

## Notes

Draft 03 is published
- Still requires some manual effort to produce
- Chairs used to be able to edit backend wordpress, so there is an extra step to get it on the WG web page

Identiverse Interop
- Revising the draft document to follow more closely to the format used at the Gartner interop
- Vladi, Alex O and David B got together to start building the demo app
    - allows you to select the different search options
    - builds a comformant request and sends to the selected PDP
    - when ready, it will be hosted by AWS
    - current version:  https://authzen-search-demo-894605444744.europe-west1.run.app/
- David to add inputs and outputs before sending the document out
- We need to make sure all participants have signed the IPR agreement before Identiverse

Open Issues
- David will look at the `context.reason` in a response to clean this area up
- Provide a way to flow existing JWTs within the AuthZEN request (Omri)
- How to send context back with a search result (Omri)
- Evaluations semantics (Omri)
- Policy routing (Omri)

Partial Evaluation
- Recommendation is to move PE to 1.1
- Michiel, Vladi and David got together recently to discuss the result set
- Need to cover a subset of capabilities
- Currently have two serialization formats in review
- MT: What is a possible timeline for an implementer's draft of PE?
    - This work can continue in parallel and produce a document that interested parties can be pointed to
- Request format will be the same as the Search format
- Bulk of the remaining work is on the response structure
- David will send a note to the working group to seek other interested parties that want to provide input


Metadata Discovery
- The idea is to have a metadata endpoint that is accessed via a .well-known endpoint

