# Meeting Notes 2024-05-21

## Attendees
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- Allan Foster
- @omri
- @davidbrossard
- Alex Olivier
- Roland Baum
- @xmlgrrl
- @eaz (Elie Azerad)
- @alexbabeanu
- Jason Garbis
- @gemanor
- Steve Venema

## Agenda
- Identiverse update
- Copperleaf 8, 10am - 3pm, May 28
- see OIDF calendar at openid.net/calendar
- [Venue map](https://aria.mgmresorts.com/content/dam/MGM/aria/meetings/meeting-resources/documents/aria-meetings-capacities-guide-west.pdf)
- Readout session?
- Thursday at 4:35pm: [details](https://identiverse.com/idv24/session/2164920/)
- Happy hour at BrewDog 7-10pm
- Are there any other implementations for the interop?
- PingID / Adam R. attempting interop
- Rock Solid Knowledge attempting interop
- Alex will have 3edges done by this week
- Permit will make it before the event
- OpenFGA is looking at it, has feedback

- EIC update
- Interop on Friday - 9am - 130pm on level C.
- OIDC workshop on June 4: Allan will take the lead
- Identibeer and maybe Authoribeer get-together on Monday night
- Wednesday Spree Boat Tour: [Book here](https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2024/river-cruise)

- Interop Slides (Both IDV and EIC)
- [Contribute](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19MansjpWKrMQ032-CVzA3GjMKuAxEsmwd1878eGK0xQ/edit#slide=id.p1)

- SG1 (Advice & Obligations) update
- SG2 (Box carring) update
- Opinionated API?
- Is the protocol itself standardization enough?
- Do we need to standardize attributes?

## Notes
### SG 1 "Advice & Obligations" Update
- Steve V. wrote a draft charter
- Feedback requested
- Extension mechanism (Eve) --> profiles?
- TTL?
- Need to decouple from O&A conversation

### SG 2 Boxcarring update
- We will create a "prior art" session (starting with PingID), post EIC

### Opinionated API
- Opinionated API?
- Right now the spec has no strong opinion other than "categories" (subject, resource, action, context).
- Should we enforce specific attributes (id, type, action)?
- Do we need to define well-known datatypes? Call it format as in RFC 9493? Does format need to embed type?
- Format vs. type (@omri to complete with example)
- one option is to use [RFC9493](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9493/) for representation of "subject/resource type classes" (not property types like boolean, string, float)