# Meeting Notes 2024-01-16
## New members
Welcome 👋 to the NIST team, Cloudentity, Radiant Logic, and Cerbos.
## Prior Art: Cedar Background
Darin's [AWS Cedar Overview](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FAwPXX3dN1sOB8ICihP9rqC4TDtjsZs2cOuE0pYa29Q/edit)
- There is consensus that we are trying to harmonize how to send a request and process a response
- Cedar uses the PARC model. Atul's current design doesn't have room for context. We need to add that
- Cedar's model is symmetric i.e. Principal, Action, Resource, and Context are all equivalent.
- Passing in the policies that are to be crunched: @davidbrossard seems to think it's out of bounds
- Passing in the data to be used: that goes against the PIP model but addresses issues of scale
## Action Items
- @davidbrossard will build a comparison between different models in the prior art doc to drive the next iteration of the spec
- We need to agree on what we want to show in the interop
- Is it a Postman collection that can be used against any vendor (Aserto, Axiomatics, 3Edges?)
## Next Steps
- 2 calls scheduled to go over OAuth (David Hyland) and ALFA (David Brossard) on Thursday and Friday 11am PT
- Design patterns doc (@alexbabeanu): Alex will schedule a follow-up
## Other Items
- Identiverse participation: interop exercise prior to the conference followed by a readout during the main agenda
- All, please read up @xmlgrrl's [interop scenarios](https://hackmd.io/@oidf-wg-authzen/InteropScenarios)