# Scratchpad for organizing DADE resources (historical)

To be moved to the DADE CG wiki (and probably further organized) eventually...

## DADE CG promotion
* What Happens to Your Data After You Die? EIC 2025 interview with The Paypers on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkXLInFt0rs&list=PLAHx0q7WHPtQnCOONB4e6kT0tT2KbqHkB&index=3)

## Resources
* [Digital Legacy Association](https://digitallegacyassociation.org)
* Their [2024 Digital Death Survey](https://digitallegacyassociation.org/about/reports-2/)
* Michelle Desmond's work
* On Grief and Death [site](https://ongriefanddeath.com)
* Death and Other Stories [book](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DKP5YQTD?ref_=k4w_oembed_ioPqsnxom5bG2T&tag=kpembed-20&linkCode=kpe)
* Digital Afterlife: Death Matters in a Digital Age [book](https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Afterlife-Artificial-Intelligence-Robotics-ebook/dp/B07Z6PBZCL/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0)
* Debra Bassett, [digital afterlife consultant](https://www.linkedin.com/in/debra-bassett-025a8b1/)
* Thanatology [definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanatology)
* Bequest.com [digital vault service](https://bequest.com/digital-vault)
* FinalDocx [service](https://finaldocx.ca) in Canada
* [Permanent.org](https://permanent.org)
* Eternal.me [platform](https://eternal.me)
* Book by one of its principals, Jennifer Zegel: [Digital Asset Entanglement: Unraveling the Intersection of Estate Laws & Technology in the U.S. and Canada](https://store.lexisnexis.com/en-us/products/digital-asset-entanglement-unraveling-the-intersection-of-estate-laws-technology-in-the-us-and-canada-grpsku07491.html)
* OAuth Security Workshop Delegated Authorization [deck1] and [deck2](https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C07KQP3DMR7/p1744987476377149) and [notes](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UycScHJP1yMhINdHLHLgoDwHLtIntHoUevmL3hjUJOA/edit?tab=t.0) on [OIDF Slack](https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C07KQP3DMR7/p1744987250593059)
* [OpenID Connect Authority claims extension](https://openid.bitbucket.io/ekyc/openid-authority.html)
* And [further info](https://bitbucket.org/openid/ekyc-ida/wiki/OSW%202025%20-%20Delegated%20Authority%20Content)
* Identiverse 2022 talk - [Digital After Life – The Intersection of Technology, Law and Death](https://identiverse.com/video/digital-after-life-the-intersection-of-technology-law-and-death/)
* [Pre-Dead Social Club](https://www.predeadsocialclub.com) in Brattleboro, VT, USA
* [GenWealth crypto inheritance protocol](https://genwealth.app/)
* [What is RUFADAA - Everything You Need to Know](https://trustandwill.com/learn/what-is-rufadaa) - background on the Revised Uniform Fiduciary Access to Digital Assets Act
* Potential CA version: [California Code, Probate Code - PROB § 873](https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/probate-code/prob-sect-873/)
* [Digital Fiduciary](https://digitalfiduciary.org)
* [Options available if a Yahoo account owner passes away](https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN2021.html;_ylt=AwrgNzqM7RNoegIAKqRXNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny?guccounter=1)
* [Life insurance policy locator](https://eapps.naic.org/life-policy-locator/#/welcome)
* New York State warning on [After Death "Ghosting" Scam](https://dos.ny.gov/after-death-ghosting-scam)
* [Notes from DADE session at IIW40](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B6chmzzz5qApY7BLCdVwUhC83a4ZjAdUXPnwQChwQ2w/edit?tab=t.0)
* [The Nokbox - a next-of-kin box](https://www.thenokbox.com)
* [Consent Matrix](https://www.consentmatrix.app) - for performers wishing to have control over their name, image, likeness, and voice

## Internet commentary
* [Can Grief Bots Help Us Heal?](https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/terms-of-service-with-clare-duffy/episodes/95a21546-96f3-11ef-80c1-73ce627ecfb1) in Terms of Service podcast 8 April 2025
* [5 Ways Estate Attorneys Can Bring Order to Their Clients’ Digital Asset Chaos](https://natlawreview.com/article/5-ways-estate-attorneys-can-bring-order-their-clients-digital-asset-chaos) in The National Law Review 21 March 2025 (by author from Eternal.me mentioned elsewhere)
* [What Happens to Your Digital Footprint When You Die?](https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/terms-of-service-with-clare-duffy/episodes/a03fc986-96cf-11ef-aa1b-0f7c30ea3f14) in Terms of Service podcast 18 February 2025
* [Declared dead by Service Canada, N.B. woman still trying to get life back](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/live-woman-declared-dead-service-canada-1.7451371) in CBC News 12 Feb 2025
* [What happens to your online accounts when you die?](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42991112) in Hacker News 13 Feb 2025
* [Data of four dead British teens may have been removed, says TikTok](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yv4j8rzzzo) in BBC News 11 Feb 2025
* [Logging off life but living on: How AI is redefining death, memory and immortality](https://theconversation.com/logging-off-life-but-living-on-how-ai-is-redefining-death-memory-and-immortality-246306?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/technology) in The Conversation 8 Jan 2025
* [I SWEAR SHE ISNT DEAD, GUYS!!](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/1icftss/i_swear_she_isnt_dead_guys/?share_id=-bphIlEX1jzcS4eYudrXk&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&rdt=55971) on Reddit Jan 2025
* [Bryn Mawr Trust Survey Reveals Americans Value Digital Assets at $191,516 on Average, But Gaps Exist in Digital Asset Awareness and Estate Planning](https://www.bmt.com/news-insights-events/bryn-mawr-trust-survey/) in BMT 5 December 2024
* [Estate planning: Why you need to plan for your online assets](https://lifescapes.wellsfargoadvisors.com/digital-estate-plan/) in Wells Fargo Advisors 1 August 2024
* [Dead man walking: Judge tells man he’s still legally dead](https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/dead-man-walking-judge-tells-man-hes-still-legally-dead/) in Las Vegas Review-Journal 10 October 2013
* [Never Say Die](https://cacm.acm.org/news/never-say-die/) in Communications of the ACM 14 April 2025
* [You may think you have all the time in the world](https://www.linkedin.com/posts/debra-bassett-025a8b1_you-may-think-you-have-all-the-time-in-the-activity-7306600639634001920-DQI_/) on LinkedIn March 2025 by Debra Bassett, mentioned elsewhere
* [How do I save my mom’s Delta Skymiles when she’s deceased?](https://www.reddit.com/r/awardtravel/comments/1jju0os/how_do_i_save_my_moms_delta_skymiles_when_shes/) on Reddit March 2025

## Discussions held on #cg-dade
### Delegated authority mind map
[Mike K](https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVI1zMI5I=/?share_link_id=824845897505) in Miro
### "Portfolios" of digital assets
[Gail H](https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C07KQP3DMR7/p1737135663887369) on Slack:
> Warning—- this is coffee chat content, to get the two cents of DADE folk…
I was just ruminating on the imminent TikTok ban….It made me think about all the people who will not have configured privacy settings before the ban goes into effect…and the questions on their rights afterwards.
It is a couple clicks to set up a social media, digital media or digital asset account…but so hard to maintain it. This made me think of DADE, where I have been thinking of the use case immediately at moment of death or incapacity. However, it is of course a much longer problem in « time. »
After taking the Digital Legacy Association survey above…I made a list of all the websites they asked about: social media, photo printing companies, community forums ( NextDoor, Glassdoor.) There are so many entities that have their own « life and death » cycle, separate to the individuals « life and death » cycle.
If one thought of digital accounts and content and assets like a vanguard S&P 500 mutual fund…you expect the companies or the assets in a portfolio to come and go. After you die…then those individual assets would probably might decrease in number a because a company closes, but it could also increase if things like AI algorithms are building on your digital assets.
Over time the assets may be erased or becomes zero value, or go into « storage » that is not retrievable or hard to retrieve, or get sold to another entity. That new entity can sustain user’s preferences effectively, or poorly, or ….maliciously.
Even for good managers of digital assets, there would be periodic requests of the asset manager or next of kin to approve changes to the management of the assets…(eg « do you want storage for a fee » or « transition to trash » or « transfer to another data manager » or sell asset).
So, the individual managing the digital estate has the immediate challenge of accessing and taking over the accounts and assets, that is the « hearts and minds » part of the problem. But there is also the long long tail, this ongoing portfolio management challenge with changes to the underlying « portfolio » to manage as well.
This long term may also be split into use cases that have income streams like media content eating royalties or crypto currencies …people might pay more acute attention assets with clear and easily fungible value. The more painful management problem could be with the assets without a market value, how to manage them…? That part might be more like what insurance policy you need to protect a digital legacy in a digital age.

[Dean S](https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C07KQP3DMR7/p1737650570975719?thread_ts=1737135663.887369&cid=C07KQP3DMR7):
> Gail, this is great! I liken this to something I experienced recently. I found out I had "unclaimed" property in the state of Georgia that goes back more than 20 years. It's not much (a few hundred dollars) but it's enough that I'd like to reclaim it. Yet, the procedure required to claim the money is onerous enough that I may never actually execute the necessary steps.
The interesting thing that I see here is that even when we try to manage our assets carefully, we still lose things and may have to reclaim them many years later. And that will include these digital assets!

[Gail H](https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C07KQP3DMR7/p1739478402371489?thread_ts=1737135663.887369&cid=C07KQP3DMR7):
> @Dean H. Saxe agreed. I just went through that process for $1292 held by the State of California for some old employer HSA that was long forgotten about. A Pain, but enough money to at least jump through the KYC/IDA hoops they had for me. So again, when there is a high enough incentive, and the person is alive, action might be taken. If the person is incapacitated or dead, next of kin has no idea, or the asset is not fungible… then the trail can go cold.

### Identity-updating list (Canada-oriented) from FinalDocx
[Sean M](https://oidf.slack.com/archives/C07KQP3DMR7/p1738019020500619) on Slack:
> With a recent passing of a loved one, I became aware of finaldocx.ca in Canada. The funeral home provided this service to ensure their identity is updated.
Here is some of the places you can send information to:
1. Notification to Old Age Security Program
1. Notification to Service Canada
1. Canada Revenue Agency
1. HST/GST recalculation
1. Canada Pension Plan Death Benefit
1. Canada Pension Plan Survivor's Benefit
1. Equifax (Credit Reporting Agency)
1. Cancellation of Provincial Health Card
1. Cancellation of Provincial Driver's License
1. Cancellation of Provincial Photo I.D. card
1. Notification to Social Insurance Program
1. Transfer rewards cards
1. Provincial Outdoors Card
1. Blue Cross
1. Cancel or transfer utilities
1. Hydro
1. Telephone
1. Cable
1. Gas
1. Cancel Mobile Phone
1. Cancel Credit Cards
1. Visa
1. Mastercard
1. Amex
1. Credit Union
1. Retail Cards
1. Nexus Travel Card