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# Discussion: agile learning meet

Here we can write . I believe I've turned the need for loggin in off. There are other smoother ways of doing this, but I thought I'd see if you like this.
http://david.dojo.fed.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/why-we-are-here/view/agile-learning

# Learning Objeya
We can explore here the visual side of our common focus.
http://david.dojo.fed.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/why-we-are-here/view/viable-system-model/view/obeya
LEARNING DIALOGUES  - COMMUNITIES THAT LEARN

# Working with Neighbourhoods

http://david.dojo.fed.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/jnkping 

http://marc.tries.fed.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/recent-changes/view/neighborhood-wiki-metastructure

https://vimeo.com/474505375


- neighborhoods are becoming weaker and weaker and businesses and governments are becoming stronger and stronger. No, no scheme no deal will. But, my only purpose in working, is to provide tools and methods for people living in neighborhoods, so that they can regain their necessary status in that power dynamic between governments and businesses I personally have no interest in government or business, other than as they interrelate with neighborhoods. 
- A place where you meet in, in, in Europe because it's a plaza. And the plaza is the middle of the town where everybody meet and you buy your vegetables and you meet your neighbors and then you discuss on the on the forum about football or soccer as you call it, you know all this all over Europe, and also in the US, of course. But then we 
have the internet and I actually introduced the word learning class. 
- Norwegian Initiative 2020:  https://www.regjeringen.no/contentassets/6e57b898abea46f1bde2108f82ce1796/no/pdfs/nou202020200012000dddpdfs.pdf 

Fed Wiki -  Local Cultural Mirror
with fed wikis, so that that fed wiki is theirs and their voice, as I say, the Fed wiki is the first truly democratic social media platform I've ever seen. It's democratic because you can't silence anybody. can't alter anything, and they don't have to agree with anybody. 
You can aggregate them copy them and see them, relative to each other, to me, I've never conceived of a more powerful tool for supporting democratic processes. 
- that replicates basically social software built on anti social principles. 

- how can we develop the community,  - the strategic planning process eg. in the which  central document between the politicians and the community, its inhabitants. And it's very very bureaucratic Yes, a lot of words is very very, you know, it goes without saying so.   
- LIVING DOCUMENTY    - eg like Fed Wiki
-  So they weren't thinking of how can we make the system more dynamic document, a dynamic process much more involved in the employee in the community/ municipality, but also the inhabitants  - multistaker perspective and the collective intelligence 
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# Possible Pilot

- the visualization and how we can build these low cost DIY kind of studios in homes and communities in schools, how we can use video and podcasting simple, and quite exciting new media that young people are increasingly tuning into, but also really quite brainy and academic, they're not like Twitter and Facebook in that sense, the long form podcast, sort of educational material that you can put out in terms of podcasts, and to create this kind of decentralized conversation between spaces, make that very very accessible so that we can involve real people in real communities and have this be restricted to some high. 

we've got the ability and the will and the understanding enough to cooperate and build some open systems some open templates, while having a sustainable way of those of us that wish to run businesses, using this common open framework in the building, doing consultancy getting work with local communities. And otherwise, without building any sort of big central organization. 

It does mean building a structure but we can build a different structure, a federated structure federated organization practices and countries coming together, figuring out what's in common that we need to build, who's got the skills to do that and that's what I'm hoping we can do in terms of a practical pilot, take some of these visualizations builder.

NEXT: 
nd I think I've done a little bit of work to stretch my mind into the new obey what I need to describe. Once I describe it and share it with you understand where I'm coming from. I am sure you're going to challenge me, I think, to say did you think about this. Have you thought about that and also in my own concept of why on earth I definitely would improve once I put it on the table that for you to have a go at it. So I think I would like next step is, each of us to describe what is this obeah for themselves going to do. 
What's the problem with the current situation. How big things began to overcome it, and probably what is missing in their thinking. So today if you ask me the ones missing. Imagine now is how I can bring people in, totally different places to be able to without constraints of time and space but the discussion about specifics within all this knowledge body that's a barrier is how, for example, I can very clearly. I don't know how to do it today. If you help me overcome it. I think you're there we go one step up and then another one would be another one so hopefully by talking to each other about our thing. You will throw back some suggestions that will make the world a more convergence of the different ideas that will address objectives or multiple types of people who are going to use the obeya room. 

## Marc Pierson
Hello World
I am very interested in the SmartRuralLife 
My hope and inspiration is from Jonkoping--I want to see a community do 800 improvements a year, so to speak.
Five Women in a Neighborhood, the functional unit of change.
Let's always discuss implications of scale.
Nieghborhood level economic and financial systems (circumscribed but porous).
Ross Ashby and the concept of requisite variety is critical!
Present our current work including the edges and anxieties and expect to get some "help." In particular, I will be sure to share where I sense my edges to be.
I want to briefly share my experience LISTENING to patients. Changed my world. Made me very skeptical of "helping." 

The "Obeya Room--design and managment room" is the place and the information and the mood that allows people to self-organize at a dramatically faster and more effective level. What is missing now?

It is not that neighborhoods are more important than metasystems. It is that they are foundational. Enough dead cells -> -> -> dead brain.


## Bjarne Berg Wig
Say hello here....

## Samer Hamadeh
Hi, trying to work this out without signing in

## Inge-Mette Stenseth
Say hello here....

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NOTES FROM THE CHAT IN ZOOM
From David Bovill to Everyone:  05:10 PM
https://hackmd.io/@garden/ryab5j7C8
From Me to Everyone:  05:52 PM
Wiki  - open Source fashion for communities 
From Marc Pierson to Everyone:  06:19 PM
http://marc.tries.fed.wiki/view/welcome-visitors/view/recent-changes/view/neighborhood-wiki-metastructure
From Me to Everyone:  06:32 PM
common  ground  - how to engage the community  
Learning Garden  . the shared space   - open Learning , study circles 
Young People   
Federated global Government -   
Well stated 
resilience in local communities -  100fold  generative capacity 
From Me to Everyone:  06:37 PM
systems without  left-right
From Marc Pierson to Everyone:  06:41 PM
https://vimeo.com/474505375
https://vimeo.com/411834303
Etc on my Vimeo site.
From Marc Pierson to Everyone:  07:09 PM
On health care https://vimeo.com/479621408
