# Numba Meeting: 2025-07-22
Attendees:
FPOC (last week): Graham
FPOC (incoming): Siu
NOTE: All communication is subject to the [Numba Code of Conduct](https://github.com/numba/numba-governance/blob/accepted/code-of-conduct.md).
Please refer to [this calendar](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=5rqnddm4gjrdfjm31fsv182epk%40group.calendar.google.com) for the next meeting date.
## ~~Office hour signup~~
## Discussion
- Discuss osx-64 - Intel 64-bit Macbooks EOL in August
- Stats data on downloads to be checked
- Can still produce packages for the existing packages on the platform (e.g. up to Python 3.13, NumPy 2.3)
- Can also build and test wheels using public wheel builders
- What does conda-forge do / provide?
- Still have Intel macOS installer
- Not clear on what packages are still built for it (need to check)
- Conclusion: will gather more info to make a decision, see what upstream deps are doing.
- LLMs and open source (Copilot)
- What do we accept / not accept?
- https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10133 - test with copilot
- Did not go well - many iterations required to get nowhere near a proper solution for a simple task.
- Conclusion: We cannot presently let LLMs do independent work.
- Suggestions:
- Contributors are responsible for actions taken on their behalf.
- Contributors should understand the code they're submitting and the actions they're taking.
- LLVM 20
- Have got to the bottom of all problems
- Some are not fixable
- Would require large complex MCJIT patch to fix
- Certain things will have to be noted as broken
- SVML patch port in progress
- API for vectorization has changed non-trivially in LLVM 15 -> 20
- 50-60% of hunks don't apply
- Summary: there is a way through to get enough to work to proceed
- Tested manually on Linux (Intel + AArch64) and macOS (AArch64)
- ETA for Numba / llvmlite release kickoff
- End of next week(1st August)
- Staffing constraints suggest an extra week is possible
- Suggest release around 11th August, if no other people available before
## New "Ready for Review" PRs
## 1. New Issues
- [numba#10151](https://github.com/numba/numba/issues/10151) - uint64 and int comparison
### Closed Issues
## 2. New PRs
- [numba#10147](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10147) - Fixes for NumPy 2.3.0
- [numba#10148](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10148) - gha/fix gha ci issues
- [numba#10149](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10149) - Enhance conda environment setup scripts on Azure
- [numba#10150](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10150) - Python 3.14
- [numba#10152](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10152) - Explicitly accept conda TOS in Windows Azure public CI
### Closed PRs
(last numba: 10151; llvmlite 1242)