# Numba Meeting: 2025-07-22 Attendees: FPOC (last week): Graham FPOC (incoming): Siu NOTE: All communication is subject to the [Numba Code of Conduct](https://github.com/numba/numba-governance/blob/accepted/code-of-conduct.md). Please refer to [this calendar](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=5rqnddm4gjrdfjm31fsv182epk%40group.calendar.google.com) for the next meeting date. ## ~~Office hour signup~~ ## Discussion - Discuss osx-64 - Intel 64-bit Macbooks EOL in August - Stats data on downloads to be checked - Can still produce packages for the existing packages on the platform (e.g. up to Python 3.13, NumPy 2.3) - Can also build and test wheels using public wheel builders - What does conda-forge do / provide? - Still have Intel macOS installer - Not clear on what packages are still built for it (need to check) - Conclusion: will gather more info to make a decision, see what upstream deps are doing. - LLMs and open source (Copilot) - What do we accept / not accept? - https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10133 - test with copilot - Did not go well - many iterations required to get nowhere near a proper solution for a simple task. - Conclusion: We cannot presently let LLMs do independent work. - Suggestions: - Contributors are responsible for actions taken on their behalf. - Contributors should understand the code they're submitting and the actions they're taking. - LLVM 20 - Have got to the bottom of all problems - Some are not fixable - Would require large complex MCJIT patch to fix - Certain things will have to be noted as broken - SVML patch port in progress - API for vectorization has changed non-trivially in LLVM 15 -> 20 - 50-60% of hunks don't apply - Summary: there is a way through to get enough to work to proceed - Tested manually on Linux (Intel + AArch64) and macOS (AArch64) - ETA for Numba / llvmlite release kickoff - End of next week(1st August) - Staffing constraints suggest an extra week is possible - Suggest release around 11th August, if no other people available before ## New "Ready for Review" PRs ## 1. New Issues - [numba#10151](https://github.com/numba/numba/issues/10151) - uint64 and int comparison ### Closed Issues ## 2. New PRs - [numba#10147](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10147) - Fixes for NumPy 2.3.0 - [numba#10148](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10148) - gha/fix gha ci issues - [numba#10149](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10149) - Enhance conda environment setup scripts on Azure - [numba#10150](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10150) - Python 3.14 - [numba#10152](https://github.com/numba/numba/pull/10152) - Explicitly accept conda TOS in Windows Azure public CI ### Closed PRs (last numba: 10151; llvmlite 1242)