# Nushell core team meeting 2025-06-04
## Attendees
- Darren
- Rose
- Michael
- Douglas
- Jack
- Bahex
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## Agenda
- [X] {%preview https://github.com/nushell/nushell/pull/15878 %}
possibly add explicit support for `--` as a "parameter terminator"

  def foo [--foo, --bar, --, ...rest] {}

`...rest` would be treated similarly to the rest parameter in `def --wrapped` commands

- [X] `table` rename
- are we sticking with `render`?
- primitive value REPL representation change
- [ ] More robust error handling, allowing users to attach error codes ([context](https://discord.com/channels/601130461678272522/601130461678272524/1378572493207507005))
- [X] Release volunteers

## Discussed Topics

- hold off on #15878 out of an abundance of caution (unless we can get someone who can do a patch release)

## `table` -> `render`
- we generally like using the same styling inside and outside of tables
- will have to more carefully consider datetimes
- converting all values to string makes the `render` name make more sense
- idea: have `render` subcommands for different frontends
- `render terminal`, `render notebook`/`render jupyter`, `render nana`, `render html`, `render gui`
- automatically choose correct frontend when just typing `render`
- how to avoid having to type out `render terminal` for table options?
- ship `alias rt = render terminal`: not ideal
- automatically forward flags from `render` to appropriate frontend: what if flags aren't supported by frontend, or are different between frontends?
- make `table` command set metadata which is consumed by `render`: if you need to render to string, not much shorter than `render terminal`, and still keeps (slightly less) confusingly-named `table` command
- on the name point, maybe this could be `style table`, along with other metadata styled things? that is even longer though
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- does this idea hastily couple creating "human-readable values" and "rendering to fr
- `render` would have to have output type `any`, making it difficult to reason about its output
- this use-case isn't very well understood right now