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# SolidOS Team Meeting

* Date: 06.21.2023 18:00 (UTC+2)
* Call: [https://meet.jit.si/solid-operating-system](https://meet.jit.si/solid-operating-system)
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* Meetings home: [https://solidos.solidcommunity.net/public/SolidOS%20team%20meetings/](https://solidos.solidcommunity.net/public/SolidOS%20team%20meetings/)
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## Present attendees

* Jeff, Aad, Noel, Theo, Rahul, Angelo

### Scribes

* Noel, Aad

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## Topics

### Round Table

#### Noel

Still working on the framework and still nothing Solid specific so extracting code for making apps.  Probably about 50% along the way.

#### Jeff

Building the Web Components for solid-uix.  Will put this up today so we have something concrete to discuss (see discussion below).

##### Theo

Met Noel and Aad at FOSDEM'23.  Master thesis at CERN.  NLNet grant.  (connection dropped off, welcome Theo!)

##### Rahul

Been working on a new spec for the last month.  Intends to pick it up next week.

##### Aad

Mathias is working on Solid POD hosting.  Aad was looking at, and wanted to look further in to, the Web Components of Jeff.  He also noticed that there's not a big uptick of internal Solid use at redpencil.io as he had expected and thinks it could help if there would be an easier way to get data from/to the Solid POD such that it could be used for internal systems.

Rahul will link to Justin Bingham's work.
https://www.janeirodigital.com/xform/

Jeff came from a meeting with Laurens.  (iMec, Aad thinks).  They have a model in which they have a relational database that syphons data into the solid pod.  This is going in the other direction but certainly related.

##### Angelo

Thinking of adding a search.  It would be nice if:

  - find things by common name (string, anything)

Aad will ask Brecht Van De Vyvere and Elena Poelman on related work for doing search based on terms in the solid pod.

### Main topics

### Technical topics

#### Getting started with solid-uix

Aad tried to get started with solid-uix but could not get it running quickly.  Jeff provided pointers towards his new work.

#### CDNs

It makes sense to have rdflib and mashlib hosted on a CDN so people can get started easily.

Noel: It also helps because building is complex and getting people started tends to be fairly hard.  This is especially hard with dependencies.

Aad: Web Components generally help with the ease of use and extension too.  Noel agrees, specifically for vanilla Web Components.

Jeff: Yes, solid-uix Web Components will be vanilla, but they do require mashlib and rdflib (or communica).

Aad: Perhaps we should have a thing around it.

#### Minor content on search

- https://blog.ipfs-search.com/Decentralised-search-from-dream-to-reality/
- Perhaps a search index that is currently available as a strongly scaled down version of ipfs-search.com

#### Backend for frontend for solid

- [Original blog post on Inrupt's blog](https://www.inrupt.com/blog/backend-for-frontend-with-solid?utm_source=solid-forums)
- [Forum discussion](https://forum.solidproject.org/t/why-backend-for-frontend-for-solid-is-categorically-wrong/6673/2)

Perhaps there are cases.  It is most important that you can you can bring your own Solid POD. This may be a problem for the case discussed in the article because it may enforce a certain structure.

Rahul indicates that there may be some economic forces that will want this to be more closed.  Aad indicates that the web also turned profitable with the open web.  Jeff indicates that although these forces exist but we should do those things that keep the web an open market solution (eg: perhaps add things in the protocols).

Angelo (as suggested earlier) indicates this is probably not a technical topic.  It dependson what people will adopt in the end.  Noel indicates that users may not realize this is happening.

Aad, Jeff, Angelo: if we can empower the users, then we can capture the users.  (following is superb phrasing from Angelo) **The web also empowered the users to communicate on the web.  The new platforms did the same.  We need to empower the users and everything will follow from it.**  (Rahul phrases as) the web being an open platform, and businesses searching for ways to turn it into a platform instead.

We have to be early in the process for discovering and motivating applications to be built with user empowerment in mind.

Noel asks to weigh in on the forum post.

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