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title: '12/20/22 Meta Cartel TownHall :hot buttered rum:'
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###### tags: `Townhall`

*December 20, 2022* 

# 12/20/22 Meta Cartel TownHall :hot buttered rum:

### Presenters:
BorrowLucid for [Raid Guild<>Nonce hack at EthDenver](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/ethos-application-thread/2668/6)

### Proposals:
- [Minion sends a token, Requesting 30k Wrapped XDAI from Spice Bank 🌶](https://app.daohaus.club/dao/0x64/0xb152b115c94275b54a3f0b08c1aa1d21f32a659a/proposals/177) needs executing
- [Minion sends a token, Requesting 50k Wrapped XDAI from Spice Bank 🌶](https://app.daohaus.club/dao/0x64/0xb152b115c94275b54a3f0b08c1aa1d21f32a659a/proposals/203) needs executing
- [Minion sends a token, Requesting 40k Wrapped XDAI from Spice Bank 🌶](https://app.daohaus.club/dao/0x64/0xb152b115c94275b54a3f0b08c1aa1d21f32a659a/proposals/216) needs executing
- [Swap WETH for wxDai, Multicall x2](https://app.daohaus.club/dao/0x64/0xb152b115c94275b54a3f0b08c1aa1d21f32a659a/proposals/224) needs executing 
- [Pluriverse Chili Pod](https://app.daohaus.club/dao/0x64/0xb152b115c94275b54a3f0b08c1aa1d21f32a659a/proposals/292) voting period ends 12/25/22 

### Forum Proposals:
- [Moloch V3 upgrade](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/moloch-v3-upgrade/2714)
- [Moloch v3 - Upgrade to Moloch v3 as a radical experiment in decentralization - quadratic upgrading](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/moloch-v3-upgrade-to-moloch-v3-as-a-radical-experiment-in-decentralization-quadratic-upgrading/2693)
- [Chili Pod #3: Pluriverse Pod](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/chili-pod-3-pluriverse-pod/2699)
- [ETHos Application Thread](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/ethos-application-thread/2668)
    - [Raid Guild <> Nonce hack at EthDenver](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/ethos-application-thread/2668/6?u=christina)
    - [MetaFest 2023](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/ethos-application-thread/2668/3)
        - [MetaFest Croatia](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/metafest-croatia/2680)
- [Web3 Lagos Conference](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/web3-lagos-conference/2718)
- [Metaguides Revival](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/signal-proposal-metaguides-revival/2529/4)
    - [Demo Daze YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsVvDkbV_grMOVsKT8yLAWA)
    - [MetaGuides.fun](https://www.metaguides.fun/)
- [Creative: A gamified blockchain platform for independent creators, fans, and brands](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/creative-a-gamified-blockchain-platform-for-independent-creators-fans-and-brands-to-collaborate-directly-and-earn-rewards-defi-incentives/1835/13)
- [Grant Proposal: PizzaDAO - Pizza as Public Good](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/grant-proposal-pizzadao-pizza-as-public-good/2701)
- [Proposal: DeCartography - Social Graph powered by the wisdom of the crowd](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/proposal-decartography-social-graph-powered-by-the-wisdom-of-the-crowd/2691)
- [[Grant Proposal] ThePlaza - a micro blogging platform login with ENS](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/grant-proposal-theplaza-a-micro-blogging-platform-login-with-ens/2686)
- [Grant Proposal: Hedgefox](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/grant-proposal-hedgefox/2684)
- [Grant proposal: Monezo](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/grant-proposal-monezo/2682)
- [Repository of Anecdotes about DAO Best Practices [Grant Proposal]](https://forum.metacartel.org/t/repository-of-anecdotes-about-dao-best-practices-grant-proposal/2702)

### Open Floor / New Business


## Scribe Notes
### Pluraverse Pod
- sending funds to TW's wallet, cuz he's also getting a share
- Yalor advised to do all in one proposal and then send to multisig
- Joseph is voting no so that two proposals can go through, one for funds to a multisig and one for share to TW
- we all trust Travis, but the president needs to consider security

### upgrade to V3
- massive undertaking
- MC is a good place to start the experiment
- could seem like power is being taken away from people who contributed a lot a long time ago
- transfer governance shares via quadratic
- loot shares stays the same
- can sweat for more governance shares
- should be more inflation and rewarding current contributions to keep MC going
- how can we experiment more with quadratic voting and further decentralization
- Joseph already wrote the code to automate the process - its a python script in github
- **people don't loose their economic power**
- 1 share in quadratic voting is 1 share
- 100 shares in quadratic voting is 10 shares
- upgrading MC to V3 is great for DAOhaus proposal case study!
- discussion about non-voting members, who also have most of the shares
    - should their shares be loot, not governance power?
    - can we align on direction?
    - quadratic part is easiest right now when V3 
- should we be a social dao?
- grants are important?
- are there V3 features we're not thinking about?
    - don't need minions anymore
        - DAO contract can do that
    - can still have multipe wallets
        - main one is ragequittable
    - shamans!
        - onboarder with automatic splits
        - quadratic - look out for sybil
- Christina is gonna look for research on inactivity and governance
- money was put it for it to be given away
- what's the goal
    - activate smaller share holders cuz they have more voice
    - less centralization of power
- ragequit should always be available
- was it a mistake to not give out loot for eth from the beginning?
- can we use a shamman? 
    - will take a year to figure out
- next steps: more forum discussion
- can we get more funds in the DAO
    - MC reputation badge?

### EthDenver
- Keyp Castle party!