Embeddium 與 Sodium

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English

Today is a sad day.

Last night, at 1707364980, JellySquid sent a few messages in the #dev-sodium channel of the CaffeineMC Discord which started an argument between us (myself and @xdmatthewbx348696829648437249) and JellySquid. At 1707367620, both of us were banned for (as far as we can tell) two primary reasons:

  • Our criticisms of Sodium and overall CaffeineMC management
  • Discussions that happened in private channels regarding the possibility of a hard fork of Sodium. There was no evidence that we intended to move forward with a hard fork, and we explicitly stated during this argument we wanted to avoid a hard fork at all costs

We believe our criticisms were fairly objective, and not deserving of a ban. We also do not take kindly to ultimatums from those who have no right to be handing them out (exact quote: "Your intention seems to be that you want to hard fork the project, and I'm not exactly going to just let you do that.").

We didn't want to go the hard fork route (we still don't). We've been exploring every possible avenue to avoid this and figure out how to get our concerns addressed upstream in a civil manner. Unfortunately, JellySquid has made it clear that she intends to cut off all options other than either a hard fork or abandoning Embeddium. We believe abandoning Embeddium would be a disservice to the community, and as such we have no choice. Please enjoy the attached testing build of Embeddium for Fabric. It includes everything that Embeddium on Forge has (including translucency sorting) (except the Forge-specific features), plus full* FRAPI support - no Indium required!

* We haven't super thoroughly tested it yet (we have verified that the official FRAPI test mods, AE2 facades, Modern Industrialization, and Continuity Emissive Textures all work with it though). Please let us know if you find any bugs so we can fix them.

Please note that compatibility with Sodium addons (such as Iris) may be limited at the moment. Our testing has indicated that the current latest versions of Sodium Extras and Reese's Sodium Options at least mostly work (we have not found any bugs at all with these, but we also haven't fully tested every feature).

We welcome competition from Sodium. We believe this competition will make the best product for the community, and if we lose this fight it will be because the concerns we raised last night were addressed by Sodium, which is all we wanted in the first place.

简体中文

今天是个悲伤的日子。

昨晚1707364980,JellySquid 在 CaffeineMC Discord 的 #dev-sodium 频道上发了几条信息,引发了我们(我和 @xdmatthewbx348696829648437249)与 JellySquid 之间的争论。在1707367620,我们两人都被禁言了,主要原因有两个(据我们所知):

  • 我们对 Sodium 和整个 CaffeineMC 管理层的批评
  • 在私人频道中关于 Sodium 硬分叉可能性的讨论。没有证据表明我们打算推进硬分叉,而且我们在争论中明确表示我们希望不惜一切代价避免硬分叉。

我们相信我们的批评是客观的,不应该被封禁。我们也不喜欢那些无权发出最后通牒的人发出的最后通牒(原话如下: "你的意图似乎是想硬分叉这个项目,而我不会让你这么做。)

我们不想走硬分叉路线(现在也不想)。我们一直在探索各种可能的途径来避免这种情况,并想办法以文明的方式让我们的担忧在上游得到解决。不幸的是,JellySquid 已经明确表示,除了硬分叉或放弃 Embeddium 之外,她打算切断所有其他选择。我们认为放弃 Embeddium 是对社区的伤害,因此我们别无选择。请欣赏所附的 Embeddium Fabric 测试版。它包含了 Forge 上 Embeddium 的所有功能(包括半透明排序)(Forge特有的功能除外),以及完整的* FRAPI支持无需 Indium!

我们还没有对它进行超级彻底的测试(不过我们已经验证了官方的 FRAPI 测试修改器、AE2 立面、现代工业化和 Continuity Emissive Textures 都可以使用它)。如果您发现任何错误,请告知我们,以便我们修复。

请注意,目前与 Sodium 附加组件(如 Iris)的兼容性可能有限。我们的测试表明,目前最新版本的 Sodium Extras 和 Reese's Sodium Options 至少大部分都能正常工作(我们在这些插件中没有发现任何 bug,但我们也没有完全测试每项功能)。

我们欢迎来自 Sodium 的竞争。我们相信这种竞争将为社区带来最好的产品,如果我们输掉了这场战斗,那也是因为我们昨晚提出的问题得到了 Sodium 的解决,而这正是我们最初想要的。

繁體中文

今天是個悲傷的日子。

昨晚1707364980,JellySquid 在 CaffeineMC Discord 的 #dev-sodium 頻道上發了幾條資訊,引發了我們(我和 @xdmatthewbx348696829648437249)與 JellySquid 之間的爭論。在1707367620,我們兩人都被禁言了,主要原因有兩個(據我們所知):

  • 我們對 Sodium 和整個 CaffeineMC 管理層的批評
  • 在私人頻道中關於 Sodium 硬分叉可能性的討論。沒有證據表明我們打算推進硬分叉,而且我們在爭論中明確表示我們希望不惜一切代價避免硬分叉。

我們相信我們的批評是客觀的,不應該被封禁。我們也不喜歡那些無權發出最後通牒的人發出的最後通牒(原話如下: "你的意圖似乎是想硬分叉這個項目,而我不會讓你這麼做。)

我們不想走硬分叉路線(現在也不想)。我們一直在探索各種可能的途徑來避免這種情況,並想辦法以文明的方式讓我們的擔憂在上游得到解決。不幸的是,JellySquid 已經明確表示,除了硬分叉或放棄 Embeddium 之外,她打算切斷所有其他選擇。我們認為放棄 Embeddium 是對社區的傷害,因此我們別無選擇。請欣賞所附的 Embeddium Fabric 測試版。它包含了 Forge 上 Embeddium 的所有功能(包括半透明排序)(Forge特有的功能除外),以及完整的* FRAPI支持無需 Indium!

我們還沒有對它進行超級徹底的測試(不過我們已經驗證了官方的 FRAPI 測試修改器、AE2 立面、現代工業化和 Continuity Emissive Textures 都可以使用它)。如果您發現任何錯誤,請告知我們,以便我們修復。

請注意,目前與 Sodium 附加組件(如 Iris)的相容性可能有限。我們的測試表明,目前最新版本的 Sodium Extras 和 Reese's Sodium Options 至少大部分都能正常工作(我們在這些插件中沒有發現任何 bug,但我們也沒有完全測試每項功能)。

我們歡迎來自 Sodium 的競爭。我們相信這種競爭將為社區帶來最好的產品,如果我們輸掉了這場戰鬥,那也是因為我們昨晚提出的問題得到了 Sodium 的解決,而這正是我們最初想要的。


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