# ci2 moonshots session ## Discussion Points - Sharmila: - we could propose to the university to help fund models to reduce time of acquisition, increase quality of imaging - another thing that comes again and again is the push-back from PACS to deploy models because PACS is changing. **It should be priority** for ci2 to make it easier for models to be deployed - we also need **clinical champions** that keep models being used and making sure they're supported over time (as computers change, etc) - Researchers should submit intake forms with ci2 so we can evaluate the reasons and costs to make it live. - **If we can show that time ($$) is being saved, we can ask for resources from the hospital** - Janine - That are so many of our techniques that never make it out of the research setting. I think that what we need is the infrastructure or pipelines for recon, automated processing, sending displays to PACS, etc. We've in the past done pieces of it, **but we need support for more robust pipelines**; - Is there a quick way **to do spectroscopy analysis** that is done by the 3D lab? e.g. Jason put all scripts into sivic and into the scanner. But over time (scanner upgrade?) this stopped working. - Janine and others should submit as project to ci2 - Peter - Do we have a way of billing? - Eugene - ci2 should also help with interacting with vendors. E.g. GE sometimes is not responsive but maybe the center should take - Pablo - Submit your requests to intake (as many as you like!) - This way we can digest and prioritize based on the whole lab, not just one vocal person - Maddie - We have not done a good job at keeping track the impact of our tools. Can we automate the process of measuring impact? - Sharmila - What are **useful** KPIs for tracking clinical success of research techniques? Research grants and papers are not helpful for people handling money and taking scans - This is a good thing to crowd-source - Stakeholders: Sharmila, Jason, Maddie, (Pablo?) - Robert Bok - Metric suggestion ~ # patient scans done on research time/scanners which subtract from **(relieves) the imaging workload on clinical scanners** - Sharmila says difficult because scanners are now blended between clinical and research - Bob: relevant to standard of care exams, which benefit patient and reduce patient costs - Maddie: Time saved by deployed fastMRI sequences? :thumbsup: - David Vigneron - Metric suggestion ~ # people who come outside of 50mi radius to be part of research study (people who wouldn't normally go to ucsf) ## Miscellaneous - How can UCSF/VA collaborate further? - Introduce imaging protocols to clinical pipelines in both UCSF/VA - How can UCSF/BIDS/Berkeley collaborate? - With J&J, anything related to deployment they're highly interested. - How can we get more involved in hosting challenges - Peder: What are the painpoints/rewards/... of doing these in the past? - Information Commons could be a useful resource for this, except for issues with preclinical datasets - Can prostate be our test bed for the whole university to use the data and do research on? Let's implement Kirti's pipeline on Info Commons as a pilot (Sharmila) ## Call to Action - Who will lead this initiative in each area? - Who will spearhead research technique success in clinical? (Segmentation, fastMRI, ...). We need clinicians to make the case that these deployments are useful (Sharmila) - People who have not volunteered but might be good to involve: Janine, Peter, Jason - People who have volunteered: Maddie (Pablo) - This will involve quantifying segmentation - Who will submit new initatives for deployment/translation? - EVERYONE (especially MDs!) - Who is coming the distance to be part of research studies? (Quantifying new patients) - CRC Core and Steering Committees