Meeting 22 November 2021

# Meeting 22 November 2021 ## About During these meetings, we will be conforming to [The Carpentries Code of Conduct](https://docs.carpentries.org/topic_folders/policies/code-of-conduct.html). **Regular calls: 4th Monday of the month, 16:00-17:00 UK time (BST or GMT)** **Meeting details are shared via [local-uk mailing list](https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/local-uk) and [The Carpentries community calendar](https://carpentries.org/community/#community-events).** **Community's HackMD workspace: https://hackmd.io/team/local-uk?nav=overview** **Previous meetings: https://hackmd.io/V3ReKkEESzqyCNxWJdulOw#Meetings** ## Meeting Minutes **Time:** **Location:** Zoom URL: https://zoom.us/j/95360073649 **Chair:** Aleks Nenadic (cover for Alex Konovalov) **Timekeeper:** **Notetaker:** Phil Reed ### Agenda 0. Assign notetaker & timekeeper 1. Sign in & ice-breaker 1. Review of actions 1. Lucia: OWL camera experience for hybrid teaching (ongoing) 2. Ed: Git lesson improvements: issue then pull requests required. For SWC and LC.(ongoing) 3. Announcements - [Intemediate software development skills - new course by SSI in Incubator](https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/python-intermediate-development) - [Library Carpentry learner survey results and analysis](https://rstudio.cloud/project/3213450) 5. Speaker sign up - [add yourname](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)! 7. Instructor Training checkout questions 8. General discussion - Return to in-person teaching/workshops - Feelings about attenging in-person events in general - Feelings about/experiences of hybrid events 10. Chair for the next meeting - [add your name](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F) 11. Wrap-up/AOB ### Sign-in Name/pronoun if you like/ institution / optionally put "(checkout)" if you are here for the Instructor Training checkout: 1. Colin Sauze / Aberystwyth University 2. Aleks Nenadic / (she/her) / University of Manchester 3. Mario Antonioletti / SSI or University of Edinburgh 4. Ed Bennett / Swansea University 5. Phil Reed (he/him) / University of Manchester 6. Nilani Ganeshwaran (she/her) / University of Manchester 7. Jannetta Steyn / (she/her) / Newcastle University 8. Jez Cope / he/him / The British Library 9. Eirini Zormpa (she/her)/ TU Delft (but I live in the UK?) 11. David Pérez-Suárez / he-him / UCL 12. Sarah Jaffa /she /UCL 13. Lucia Michielin/ she/ UoE ... ### Icebreaker What is your favourite (or one of favourite) font(s)? 1. Aleks: Proxima Nova 2. Mario: Comic sans 3. Colin: wingdings 4. Jez: [Iosevka family](https://typeof.net/Iosevka/) 5. Nilani: Calibri 6. Phil: Johnston (London Underground with diamond dot above 'i') 7. Ed: Palatino 8. Eirini: Lato 9. Sarah: [font trying to illustrate how it feels to be dyslexic](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/font-shows-what-dyslexia-is-like) and [some fonts ddesigned to combat dyslexia](https://opendyslexic.org/) - From Jez: https://opendyslexic.org/ is free and cites actual research on its website ### Notes #### 2. Review of actions - Mario and Lucia: OWL camera experience for hybrid teaching (ongoing) - Needs a key. Still ongoing. - Ed: Git lesson improvements: issue then pull requests required. For SWC and LC.(ongoing) - Close action. Unix Extras has some SSH content (early stage of development), some improvements to this lesson at https://github.com/SCW-Aberystwyth/shell-extras. Some success with SSH. #### 3. Announcements ##### 3.1 [Intermediate software development skills - new course by SSI in Incubator](https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/python-intermediate-development) Course is available to reuse, comment. Workshop pilot 6-10 December 2021: https://softwaresaved.github.io/2021-12-06-ssi-lsst-uk/ ##### 3.2 [Library Carpentry learner survey results and analysis](https://rstudio.cloud/project/3213450) Mario and Eirni offered to help analyse free text responses in R. ##### 3.3 [Software Carpentry London/South East](https://rslondon.github.io/2021-12-08-rslondon-python-online/) Bash, git and Python; 8th-10th December #### 4. Speaker sign up - [add yourname](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)! Pick one of the slots and leave your contact details. #### 5. Instructor Training checkout questions Q: When does a self-organised workshop appear on the website? A: This is a manual process, some scripts run daily to update after that. If a workshop doesn't have lat and long, it doesn't classify as published. Also, private ones don't appear. May be a default 0,0 for online workshops. Q: Should we put every workshop through the process? A: Benefit to the organisation is the survey data, impact measurment. Benefit to you is also the surveys. Q: What is the etiquette of attending workshops at other institutions? Online operation, public, can get too many registrations from outside. Should we refer people to others' workshops? A: No clear unanimous answer, can use codes/waiting lists for Eventbrite, notes (if they are read). Should we be thinking about time zones rather than distance being the deciding factor as to who can/should come? Q: Should we run open workshops, does that make more sense now? Could try a UK-wide event for software skills. Q: Is there a model where instructor's time is minimised? With a pool of people so it is more sustainable? Looking to make a formal mechanism to get Carpentries to be implemented at an institution. Contact Jannetta. Talk about numbers, reduced costs, reuse of materials. [Example letters from Library Carpentry for directors](https://github.com/LibraryCarpentry/governance/tree/master/proposals). Aleks to send [links from Southampton](https://github.com/Southampton-RSG/ ). If you are organising it all, better to be a helper than an instructor. If you have some money for instructors, that can help a lot! #### 6. General discussion ##### 6.1. Return to in-person teaching/workshops ##### 6.2. Feelings about attenging in-person events in general ##### 6.3. Feelings about/experiences of hybrid events Leave all these for next time. #### 7. Chair for the next meeting - [add your name](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F) #### 8. Wrap-up/AOB ### Actions - Mario and Lucia: OWL camera experience for hybrid teaching (ongoing) - Sarah: [font trying to illustrate how it feels to be dyslexic](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/font-shows-what-dyslexia-is-like) and [font designed to combat dyslexia](https://opendyslexic.org/)