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# WG Meeting Notes 2022

## 2022-10-26: WG Meeting #15

**Agenda (plan)**

1. Welcome Joe (Joe Nockels, Edinburgh)
2. Survey Sprint
3. LIBER Winter Event (Amsterdam, Dec. 1-2.)

## 2022-09-28: WG Meeting #14

**Agenda (plan)**
1. Welcome, Athanasia (Salamoura) and Matthijs (de Zwaan)!
2. Welcome back to Linda!
3. A reminder to make sure everyone is featured on the LIBER WG website.
- *If not, you have to send a photo and bio to LIBER (likely to Rosie Allison, rosie.allison {at} libereurope.org).*
- *I believe Athanasia, Max and Matthijs do need to submit their profiles, they’re not on the website yet.*
4. Plan for 2022: v1.0 of survey + results
- *update the planning (look at all the notes, make it clear/concrete)*
- *assign tasks based on the planing - next meeting, people can pick up tasks*
- *survey needs to be updated!*
- *submission for LIBER Winter Event*
5. Presentation by Peter about DS activities at his organization (upload slides on GitLab later).
6. Discussion of article recommended by Camilla: *Gasparini, A., & Kautonen, H. (2022). Understanding Artificial Intelligence in Research Libraries – Extensive Literature Review. LIBER Quarterly: The Journal of the Association of European Research Libraries, 32(1). https://doi.org/10.53377/lq.10934*

**Attendees**

- Peter
- Camilla
- Linda
- Birgit
- Sefiane
- Matthijs
- Athanasia
- Kiera

**Notes:**

4. Proposed Plan for 2022:

- **Mid-October:** Finalize survey for internal (WG) use.
- Can we have some members review our survey + the surveys from LIBER Digital Humanities and the AI in Libraries Network? We can use the latter examples to improve our survey.
- Can we have some members work on finalizing definitions for the current DSLib categories? It’s nice to have a similar structure and word limit on it – so all the definitions are uniform.

Keep the categories, to give a hint to the respondents. Let them tick which areas they work on, and a description via the questions.
Activity types and where does it apply. Have some easy entry questions at the beginning, then details on cases.
Group for revising the survey by next WG meeting: Linda, Peter, Birgit, Matthijs, Neha (survey now on her account)
+ feedback welcome by all group members

- **Mid-October to Mid-November:** WG members (+ anyone in our immediate network) complete the survey for their respective organizations.

- **December:** Present results at LIBER Winter Event (1-2 December) (perhaps a poster is sufficient)
- Is there anyone already planning to go the LIBER Winter Event? These members will end up representing the WG.
- If we are going, then we need to make a submission.
- If we don’t go to the LIBER Winter Event (which is also possible). We should finalize the results and make it public, maybe it can be featured in the next LIBER newsletter.

Neha, Peter, Matthijs considering to go Deadline for abstract: 30 Sept - Rosie will check if it's ok to be a few days late (during the next week is ok)

- **2023:** Finalize survey for external circulation and send it out via LIBER newsletter.

5. Presentation by Peter - Library Data Science in Göttingen

MINE project
* lots of silos of textual materials, e.g. inst repository, TEI repository, OA texts, licensed texts
* MINE collects all these texts and provides a single access point, enables the users to run some text mining activities
* created connectors for each of these collections: via Python package and user interface
* based on a file system that is restricted and fire-walled
* create own metadata schema with 3 parts: original md structure with some simplicification, own mostly DC inspired md schema (via conversion of original info), result of extracting processes (e.g. counting words, Annif subject classification)
* building a knowledge graph based on this
* users can apply text mining even on restricted text, can send the analysis script and result is returned
* still work in progress, project since c 2 yrs

TextAPI project
https://textapi.com
* an API for text list IIIF API for images
* create an API which can be applied to text, language agnostic
* still in its infancy

Carpentries @ Göttingen Campus
* teaching data science methods
* so far doing DC, LC, every 2-3 months
* only one face-to-face, now online, hope to go back, better for interaction

Other projects
* Stats about proportion of OA pubs
* UN SDGs text mining project
* SSHOC building a publication network pipeline, research data repo
* Digital Geochem Infra (DGIS): extracting info from research papers
* Culture Cloud
* OCR-D: OCRing handprinted books
* Text+, national data infra for language and text-based research
* DARIAH bibliographic data WG

Own research: Measuring metadata quality
coll w BL, DDB, UB Gent, KBR (Royal Library Brussels)
quality assessment tool: measure records, aggregate, report
suggestion to improve metadata
user interfaces: e.g. German Digital Library, quality assessment based on the FAIR principles
e.g. Europeana metadata quality dashboard - completeness of original md and what was added
e.g. Issues in MARC21 records - invalid ISSNs etc.

Qs
How many people are involved?
Hard to estimate, not full-time
c 20 from library and other

6. Discussion of Article
Is data science all about AI now?

Comments
* very high-level, terms remain undefined, roles overview is good, not deep enough in terms of cases/methods
* actor-focused
* could be helpful for managers
* bibliography useful
* restricted to AI, our Zotero collection is broader (DS)
* could be helpful if you are concerned (being replaced, threat part), what to avoid

## 2022-08-31: WG Meeting #13

**Attendees**

- Neha
- Angela
- Camilla
- Birgit
- Sefiane
- Laurents
- Peter

**Agenda**

- taking over co-chairship from Neha
- recruit new members for the WG, since some are leaving
- recap of the workshop at LIBER2022
- goals for this academic year. Milestones:
- LIBER Winter Event (1st – 2nd of December 2022 at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, https://libereurope.eu/event/liber-winter-event-formerly-mid-term-event-december-2022/)
- we could maybe finalise our survey
- complete it for our respective libraries
- share the results in the session / get feedback
- send out survey in 2023 after any revisions based on feedback
- there is also the landscape analysis and we need a plan for that, it’s also an option that the landscape analysis is the focus of the Winter Conference…I’m (Neha) undecided.
- LIBER2023 (5th – 7th of July 223 at the Library and Information Centre of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences in Budapest, https://libereurope.eu/event/liber-2023-annual-conference/)
- presentations about DS related activities of a member - who's next? -> Peter
- reading and discussing papers -> Camilla will find a paper
- participation of non members
- any other business
- Laurents: writing a SMP with NWO, are there developments in SMPs (software management plans) in other countries?
- Peter: Gottingen(?) has a manual on sofware development... Peter will send links to Laurents, you can also add it the notes here.
- https://os.helmholtz.de/en/open-research-software/
- https://www.allianzinitiative.de/fields-of-action-projects/digital-tools-software-and-services/?lang=en

**Notes**

***Co-chair***

***New members***
- Linda and Mia might not be active in the group, so maybe we could find new members
- TODO: update member list (Charlie and Mia left), notify Birgit
- we can ask Liber newsletter editors to advertise for new membership

***Recap LIBER2022***
- See Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/NehaMoopen/status/1545806638371799046?s=20&t=gX-FWFcMAnmK1Z25smofDg
- Neha's email
- The workshop went really well
- Participants were active and enthusiastic
- a workshop member was interesting to be a member
- people were curious about DS, they wanted to learn about the topic
- topics: data management, text and data mining, bbliometrics etc.
- some managers, some in junior roles
- activity: flash cards to categories: collections as data, library intelligence, research support, research intelligence
- do we need these categories? yes
- Google doc for the Landscape analysis wish list
- tools
- excercises
- definition of DS: science (with hypothesis etc.) or analysis?
- Birgit: mixed type of people, liked the ideas, the excercises, cookies, it was excellent
- Neha: maybe the categories are redundant, and we could recategorise things after we have the responses
- Birgit: we could give people the option to choose which categories they think their use cases fall under (multiple options allowed)
- Camilla: we also have a discussion about science vs analysis
- Birgit: there is no clear line between them
- Laurents: what to do things which do not fit into a category?
- Neha: we did not had time to discuss the survey

***Current goals***

- Neha:
- complete the survey for our respective libraries
- share the results in the session / get feedback
- send out survey in 2023 after any revisions based on
- Laurents: present use cases, it would stimulate libraries about DS as topic (see what it is used for!)
- Birgit: +1, get use cases through th survey from the group and external members - so push the survey up
- Laurents: based on the use cases, what do you need to execute the use case if you're interested in it (infra, people) and have a discussion
- Sefiane: some libraries have set up tools already, share experiences with these tools
- Neha: maybe one hour we have at the event (TODO: ask it from Roos Knigge)
- TODO: finalize the survey about the suggestions (maybe with asking Linda, who is the one who set it up)

***What to do at meetings?***

- Peter will present in the next meeting
- Camille will send a suggestion for the paper we should read by next time

***other***

- Laurents: we are reading about software management
- Birgit:
- Helmholtz Inst. published a paper (https://os.helmholtz.de/en/open-research-software/)
- Schwerpunktinitiative "Digitale Information", Digital tools — software and services Working group: https://www.allianzinitiative.de/fields-of-action-projects/digital-tools-software-and-services/?lang=en
- Neha: we also offering software management support (maintanablility, reproducability, ... aspects)
- Peter (TODO add links):
- CESSDA paper
- research software group
- Dataverse and Zenodo connectors for GitHub
- document of Gottingen library R&D group

## 2022-06-29: WG Meeting #12

**Attendees**

- Neha
- Linda
- Camilla
- Rosie
- Péter
- Laurents

**Agenda**

1. Feedback on workshop planning
2. Updates on chairing the group
3. Summer meetings?
4. New output: DSLib Cookbook?

**Notes**

**1. Workshop Planning**

Link to workshop agenda: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1spyu1O4O_8WE32FYKTU2HW19j3euKp7txPia4XuckK8/edit?usp=sharing

- All feedback welcome: ideas, suggestions, especially on the questions to ask the group and how to make it more interactive/fun.

part 2: about the survey. Their personal activities, and discuss it in a small group. Sharing and learning from each other. At the end the subgroups can present about the discussion.

closing: what do you (the audience) need from the WG? More training, examples, clearer definitions?

Laurens: being one moderator for 20 people is a challenge. For the subgroups: one should be the notetaker. Asking somebody to help.

Neha: time keeping is another role

Rosie: maybe someone from LIBER office can be asked to be helper

**2. Updates on chairing the group**

Linda: leaves the library, so her position in the group (at least temporary)

Neha: steps down as co-chair, and more focuses on content part. Change in library role as well, which requires more energy. She will remain member of the group

**3. Summer Meetings?**

- cancel July meeting
- August meeting: informal, wrap-up of LIBER workshop or report

**4. New output: DSLib Cookbook?**

Example: https://github.com/CENL-Network-Group-AI/Recipes

Fun idea, but we should finish up our landscape analysis and survey first which will provide a basis for this. The cookbook will also be lots of work to build up and maintain etc.

We should also define data science and the categories further and that will determine what goes in or not, because some things might fit elsewhere like AI or bibliometrics.

The cookbook will not contain organization stuff by it's very nature that is contained in the lanscape analysis and report.

It can come afterwards, in the landscape analysis will also feature some use cases and examples and that be a basis for the cookbook.

## 2022-05-25: WG Meeting #11

**Attendees**

- Péter (GWDG)
- Neha
- Angela
- Camilla
- Kiera
- Max
- Rosie
- Laurents
- Sefiane

**Agenda**

Collections as data

Library support

see Linda's summary on Slack

AI Cookbook for Libraries
https://github.com/CENL-Network-Group-AI/Recipes

Data Science in the Library: Tools and Strategies for Supporting Data-Driven Research and Instruction
https://www.alastore.ala.org/datascience

Research support

Neha: bigger projects are supported by grants, smaller ones internally. DH has lots of communities to interact with. Lots of DH-related project.

Laurents: some activities fall into multiple categories.

Neha: we have to revisit the definitions: https://hackmd.io/@nehamoopen/HJr5c9idY. There are overlap e.g. between research support and collections as data.

Laurents: To think about: is it more a service provided by the library or is it a collaborative effort required to achieve something?

Research intelligence

Max: visualizing, analysing scholarly data, open science, open source software development, training, contributing to research studies. Organization: internal and collaboration with other departments (e.g. with IT staff for software development). Plans: expanding existing metrics, metadata, Open Source projects, cloud base infrastructure for analyses. Name: should be a more explaining one, that explains that it is about data analysis instead of research intelligence.

Camilla: sharing proprietory data, licensing issues.

**overall improvements for the survey**
- invitation to provide links to examples / software / projects / sites etc.
- there seems to be overlap between groups? either the groups can be removed or the definitions made more clear -> this overlap is also something to show during the workshop?
- more about the staff, background, education, training
- specific collaborations? are we interested in specific examples or groups?
- legal and ethical aspects could be made more clear
- maybe give people options to add their own cateogries, beacuse we've definied our own category
- Neha: on the landing page we can mention some examples.

**ideas for the workshop itself**
- share our ideas with the audience, we had lots of discussions about definitions and what we arrived at...invite the audience to also share their opinions of the same
- What data science is? Asking participants opinion. Overlap with AI, etc. What type of DS is applied in their institutions.
- at workshop, who is actually attending: what is their background/education etc.
- presenting the survey. Get input. Grouping.
- interactive with people at different tables for the categories...what they do / what they would like to do / examples they would like to follow
- send out the survey to the participants beforehand

Others
- there will be an extra meeting to prepare the LIBER event
- please share your notes in Slack
- fill the survey if you haven!t done

## 2022-04-27: WG Meeting #10

**Agenda**
- Welcome
- Discuss survey
- Discuss literature review
- Presentation by Angela
- AOB (any other business) and continued discussion

**Attendees**

- Neha
- Angela
- Linda
- Kiera McNeice
- Birgit Schmidt
- Péter

**Notes:**

Link to Slack group has been emailed.

**Discuss survey**

1. Results
5 responses so far
Matrix of DS activities - not all aspects are covered by all libraries
Some examples: e.g. automatic subject indexing, infrastructure for text analysis, training for working working data

2. Next steps

12 May 2022 - extended dealine
15-31 May - discussion of results in subgroups
31 May - discussion of the results

Linda prepared a template, a doc file. It might be useful when consulting colleagues

Have a preliminary summary for the workshop to draw attention to the survey, a draft framework for a summary report

3. Suggestions for the survey improvement:

- perhaps remove categories in the survey? it get's annoying to complete things 4 times over and we don't know if all categories are represented in every library. we can manually categorize the responses?
- we can have a checklist of activities as a separate question where the survey participant only has to tick off those that are present in a specific library. The free-text question that asks to describe the activities could be as an additional question. we might want to (manually) extract some data for this checklist from what we already have now.
- some questions could be dropped and/or combined (drop future plans, because difficult to get this info? combine organisation, funding, and staff into one question? drop partners?)
- pulling all info together, nobody has the full picture...services/activitiesa are spread across departments and people
- lots of overlap between categories
- missed one category: teaching, training activities
- maybe 'research analytics' instead of 'research intelligence'?
- which is better: 'library support' / 'library analytics' / 'library intelligence'?
- teaching might go under research support
- difficult to find colleagues, and explain categories, pairing items and categories
- it could be specified at the start of the questionnaire that the definition of categories follows below.
- in the qualtrics' version the question of staff is missing for research support.

**Discuss literature review**

- we should do a literature review: it will be good for discussion and it can also go into the landscape analysis
- how could we do this?
- one person could coordinate?
- a couple of people could pick a paper and present it?
- everyone reads a different paper?
- something like a journal club approach

Comments

- Linda: I prefer if everyone reads different papers?
- Birgit: journal club, with one person who read a bit more?

How do we select papers? Is there a seminal paper?
- [The Santa Barbara Statement on Collections as Data](https://collectionsasdata.github.io/statement/)
- Report about ethics
- Report about automatic classification, comparison of different tools, one from OCLC, one Open Source (KB NL)
- Drop suggestions via the Slack channel

ToDo
* Assign yourself to subgroups
* Linda to update defn on categories in Hackmd (done)
* Slides will be shared

**Presentation by Angela**
DS and data analysis at the German National Library (DNB)

data analysis:
- clustering with Culturegraph
- persistent identifiers

Culturegraph: 200 million records from German speaking library networks
data basis: DNB, regional library catalogues (e.g. KOBV, GBV)

clustering:
- match keys: normalised version of textual information, ISBN and other identifiers
- each record has several keys
- clustering based on keys (at least one in common)
- several subclusters (e.g. French title only, French and German title, German title only)
...

enrichment of content descriptions
transfer of index sequences from several sources

Stats on work clusters (2/2022)
129M records processed, ...

Focus on persistent identifiers
- identifying links and enriching title and authority records
- authors claiming titles
- matching ORCiD-Culturegraph (200M title records of German and Austrian libraries)

Automatic assignment of indexing information
- automatic subject indexing with Annif
- automatic indexing: GND descriptors
- automatic classification: DDC subject categories, DDC short numbers
- test of different approaches, evaluation

Research support
- GND Dashboard
- Text+, one NFDI cluster, preserve text- and language-based research data
- DNB lab: access to data and digital objects, Jupyter notebooks (e.g. title analysis in MARC21 records) as tutorials and examples, online tutorials
- Digital Humanities research support

**Next month, Peter will present :)**

**AOB**

**Action Points**

1. reschedule planning meeting for co-chairs to occur two weeks before the next WG meeting
2. Linda: update landscape analysis doc with latest definitions
3. Linda: send us slides of current results + the preliminary dataset + template of the questionnaire as docx
4. Angela: send slides of her presentation
5. Neha: email to assign everyone into subgroups, updated planning, actions points

## 2022-03-30: WG Meeting #9

**Agenda**
- Welcome & (re)introductions.
- Planning
- Data science definition
- Landscape analysis / library profiles

**Attendees**
- Neha
- Linda
- Péter
- Angela
- Camilla
- Laurents
- Max
- Sefiane
- Rosie
- Birgit
- Thomas

**New members**

- Max, VUA part of research intelligence team as data engineer
- Rosie, LIBER. EU project, communications team, working with WGs, teams. Facilitate events, promoting in newsletter and other channels.

**Administrative info**

Neha: Linda wrote a planning document, please read it, think about it. In a preparation meeting we agreed that Linda will coordinate the content heavy work, Neha and Péter will coordinate the administrative work.
Birgit: reminder of email about the roundtables on LIBER strategy for the future. TODO: find the dates for this discussion (it is mainly for the co-chairs, on 20 April and 20 May 2022)

**Data Science definition**

Linda's working definition:
Data science is a set of computational methods for the identification of novel and actionable insights from data. Computational methods used in data science include, but are not limited to, descriptive and inferential statistics, visualisation, text mining, image processing and computer vision, machine learning, and data engineering.

Data science in libraries is the use of data science methods in the delivery and/or improvement of library services.

Add the skills element to the definition (math/stats, technical, science = library and information science in our case)

Laurents: we can add "how **we** define" AI or DS, so we should emphasise that it is our view, not comes from the literature

Linda: some thinks DS is limited to AI or machine learning, other bring all kinds of data handling. We should add what is not DS in our definition.

Birgit: we may limit our definition to the library context

Max: what will this definition be used for

Linda: we will have an overview of DS, but for this first we define what is means. "Zoomed out definition"

Neha: our definition is overarching

Birgit: Facet Publishing's new book: Joel Herndon (ed.) Data Science in the Library: Tools and Strategies for Supporting Data-Driven Research and Instruction. https://www.facetpublishing.co.uk/page/detail/data-science-in-the-library/?k=9781783304592

Linda: deadline April 5. Please add a comment to the document, or drop a line.

**Analysis / Library Profiles**

Neha: some libraries will not engaded in all categories, or for the the categories might be overlapped.

Who will write-up the small descriptions for each of the DS in library subgroups/subcategories?
- Collections as data: Péter, Safiane, Angela
- Library support: Linda
- Research support: Neha, Péter, Laurents
- Research intelligence: Camilla, Max,
- fine-tuning before finalising all descriptions: Linda

Neha: we need a definition (2-3 sentences) for each categories. We can discuss now, and we should work on later.

Linda: definition contains what its, and some examples.

Max: I see some text.

Linda: it is not yet done, just an initial

**Communication & planning**

Neha: we can set Slack groups. Is there someone who is against?
--> result: Neha will set up a Slack group

Neha: we would like to reserve time for updates (what have you done, read, interesting seminars, activities of subgroups). We have different background, everyone can bring topics.

Linda: I would love to hear others about their work

Neha: is there a volunteer to provide a short presentation in the next meeting?

Angela: I will do it

Linda: next week we have these small descriptions. I will try to do small or no edits. Then I will send you an invitation email regarding the library profiles. I will try to reformat it into the questionnaire by 10th of April. By next meeting you will have a chance to fill the matrix for your institution. In next meeting we will discuss it. And talk about the overview, and presentation at LIBER event.

**Action points**

Key dates for library profiles #1:
- April 5: new versions of descriptions for subgroups added to [the notebook](https://hackmd.io/@nehamoopen/Skd-K-yXq) (1 week)
- April 10: wg members receive an invitation to complete the library profile about the institution they represent (2 weeks).
- April 25: last day to complete the profile! As complete as possible, but doesn't need to be the final version yet.

Setup a Slack group for the wg

## 2022-02-23: WG Meeting #8

**Agenda**

- Welcome & (re)introductions.
- Invite someone to take meeting notes :pray:
- Double-check if anyone has agenda points to add.
- LIBER Conference 2022 (6th-8th July, Denmark, https://liberconference.eu/)
- [Landscape Analysis](https://hackmd.io/@nehamoopen/liber-dslib/https%3A%2F%2Fhackmd.io%2F%40nehamoopen%2FHJr5c9idY)
- Linda & Camilla have been working on a [matrix for library profiles](https://hackmd.io/7Y0W6DkSTaWLwgihK5_egQ)
- Changes in WG Members

**Attendees**

- Neha
- Angela
- Linda
- Laurents
- Peter
- Thomas
- Birgit
- Camilla

**LIBER Conference 2022 (6th-8th July, Odense, Denmark)**
Our proposal has been accepted. Neha and Linda will attend.

**Changes in WG Members**

The US colleague left academia, so left this WG. Pam and Mia will be replaced by colleagues of theirs.

**Landscape Analysis / Library Profiles**

- Angela: filling out the matrix might not be as easy during the workshop on the spot, since they might not have an overview of other departments of activites.
- Neha: great point, we can adapt accordinly
- Laurents: attendees can specify their role and fill out what they do know.
- Laurents: we can also have examples to give some guidance.
- Neha: yes, and we also need to define the categories better.
- Linda: within the WG, everyone should try and make a profile for their library and bring it for discussion at the WG meetings.
- Linda: at the workshop, it could be something of a group task to work on one matrix and it doesn't have to be a final result for one library but it's more about how people view the categories we've conceptualized and respond.
- Linda: the matrix becomes a trigger to discuss the topic at hand and it will help with fine-tuning it.
- Laurents: yes, the matrix is not a goal in itself and we can see patterns
- Camilla: is it an idea to have the landspace analyis ready or drafted so we can bring it to the conference?
- Birgit: this could be a presentation at the workshop and we can invite advice and recommendations.
- Laurents: looking at the matrix, there is a question about what part of AI or Data Science is relevant to these activites? we have to define it better? for example, digitisation at the library in Sweden - does it involve data science/AI tasks specifically? Like text and data mining or computer vision.
- Neha: Yes, it's like the difference between scanning a document and using a AI tool to extract text information.
- Linda said something, but I couldn't type it up - sorryyy
- Angela: for the workshop we could keep things more open and invite feedback on our definitions.
- Neha: alrighty, how do we get started and how will we move forward?
- Camilla: we can start with the landscape analysis and library profiles in parallel and that will also help with preparing for the workshop.
- Birgit: we also need to define what is 'science' in this context..
- official survey comes after workshop.
- Angela: how shall we approach this? shall we select a section and do a Google and write about what is going on related to that section and how we conceptualize it...plus some examples.
- Laurents: our goals for the WG can already be chapters or sections for the landscape analysis, we shouldn't dive into things like 'what is data science?' but focus on current and emerging activites.
- To think about in future meetings: what will be the format of the survey, it might not be easy to put into a questionnaire (the matrix vs. specific linear questions). Are the questions going to be qualititave or quantitative? Will only one person respond or somehow allow a group response per library?

**Action Points**

- Send out an email asking everyone to review + complete the library profiles?
- Ask everyone to select a specific/section in the landscape analysis to work on. Subgroups could be formed.
- Ask if anyone else plans to be at LIBER 2022 in Denmark.
- Neha should plan 'planing meetings' :)

## 2022-01-26: WG Meeting #7

**Agenda**

- Welcome & (re)introductions.
- Invite someone to take meeting notes :pray:
- Double-check if anyone has agenda points to add.
- LIBER Conference 2022 (6th-8th July, Denmark)
- [Landscape Analysis](https://hackmd.io/@nehamoopen/liber-dslib/https%3A%2F%2Fhackmd.io%2F%40nehamoopen%2FHJr5c9idY)
- Linda & Camilla have been working on a [matrix for library profiles](https://hackmd.io/7Y0W6DkSTaWLwgihK5_egQ)

**Attendees**

- Neha
- Angela
- Linda
- Birgit
- Peter
- Thomas

**Notes**

- **LIBER Conference 2022 (6th-8th July, Odense, Denmark)**

The call: https://libereurope.eu/article/call-for-papers-for-liber%e2%80%af2022-annual-conference-now-open/

Note there is a Wrod doc emailed to the Chairs for the workshop submissions.

Is anyone planning to attend? Is there something we want to/can do?

* Linda, Birgit, perhaps Neha (in person)
* others hopefully online, those who can't make it
* submission of papers/presentations open until 31 Jan 2022
* workshop description - deadline 4 Febr 2022, presentation of work so far + hackathon > reuse the abstract from the winter event
* poster

- **Landscape Analysis**

* workshop could be used to present what we have done and invite people to provide input/comments etc.

* Linda presented the library matrix, there are specific columns on the recurring themes we address with a description and it's sufficient for individuals to fill it out on behalf of their library.

* It looks like it works! You can see a good overview of the library and also see clear differences between libraries, Linda and Camilla filled it out for their libraries and they saw this.

* We wanted to split up the landscape analysis according to the themes in the matrix, but maybe we should go the other way around - we use the matrix to get information and survey the libraries in our group (and eventually others) and that can form the basis for the landscape analysis.

* Neha: looks amazing, thanks for your efforts! It's really concrete and we can take further steps based on this.

* Birgit: maybe add Awareness to the matrix, as a descriptive element.

* Peter: if we do a workshop at the conference, it can be one of the activities: that people fill out this matrix.

* Birgit: yes, it also provides a starting point for the topic and gives some priorities to the group.

* Thomas: the table could serve as a framework for a survey after the workshop, we can get feedback and input from the workshop and then could aim to be spread broader in the community, eg in fall/winter 2022

* Neha: these are all nice ideas and aligns with our plans, we could start within our WG, then the workshop participants, then the broader community. We can improve the matrix based on feedback..

* Linda: good to test it out while filling out the table, but it's still a bit blurry on what we mean by DS and what to include/exclude, for now let the people interpret it as they want;

* Linda: 4 groups of activities - these need to be written out, these 4 activities need to be defined better and this can go into the landscape analysis and be part of our further steps.

* Birgit: agreed, but these categories are already a nice start!

* Birgit: another topic area might be where we work with the outside world, e.g. publishers/information management, it's not the library's collections per se, but it's something we work or interact with.

* Linda: this could be knowledge discovery? Birgit: maybe it just falls within Research Intelligence.

* Linda: we could split the topics between different people and they can write some paragraphs on it. When we bring it all back together, we might find some overlap and we can discuss further steps.

* Neha: we can send out an email to the WG and everyone can assign themselves to a specific topic / reviewing the whole thing

* Linda: maybe it's an idea to have everyone work on the descriptions/definitions of the topics and then fill out the matrix?

- Birgit: LIBER is working on a new strategy and we'll be asked to think about the working group to send in an evaluation of the working group and the lifetime of the WG and priorities.

**Action Points**

- send out an email asking everyone to pick one topic within the matrix and review it + add to it as well, everyone is welcome to review the other topics but no need to actually work on it