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title: 'JSParty #258 - The rise and fall of JS Frameworks'
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# JSParty #258 - The rise and fall of JS Frameworks
## Participants

MC: KBall 
Panelists: Nick Nisi
Guest: Chris Ferdinandi


## Outline

- Segment 1: Setting up context
    - Welcome back Chris
    - Chris's history as "The Vanilla JS Guy"
    - The blog post that sparked the conversation (https://gomakethings.com/the-transitional-web/)
    - ...
 
- Segment 2: What's going on
    - Frameworks, what is going on?
    - Major forces & trends going on in frameworks
    - ...

- Segment 3: What makes this time different?
    - You've been on the "Less JS, more vanilla" train for a very long time, but framework adoption has not gone done... what makes this time different?



 
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## Links

- [The Transitional Web](https://gomakethings.com/the-transitional-web/)
- [Preact](https://preactjs.com/)
- [Petite-Vue](https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue)
- [SolidJS](https://www.solidjs.com/)
- [Astro](https://astro.build/)
- [The spicy React debate show 🌶️](https://changelog.com/jsparty/244)
- [HTMX](https://htmx.org/)
- [JavaScript is the CO2 of the web](https://changelog.com/jsparty/80)
- [Qwik is a new kind of web framework](https://changelog.com/jsparty/237)
- [Chris's resource list](https://gomakethings.com/js-party/)
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