---
tags: JS Party
---

# JSParty #258 - The rise and fall of JS Frameworks
## Participants

MC: KBall
Panelists: Nick Nisi
Guest: Chris Ferdinandi

## Outline

- Segment 1: Setting up context
- Welcome back Chris
- Chris's history as "The Vanilla JS Guy"
- The blog post that sparked the conversation (https://gomakethings.com/the-transitional-web/)
- ...

- Segment 2: What's going on
- Frameworks, what is going on?
- Major forces & trends going on in frameworks
- ...

- Segment 3: What makes this time different?
- You've been on the "Less JS, more vanilla" train for a very long time, but framework adoption has not gone done... what makes this time different?

## Possible titles

-

## Links

- [The Transitional Web](https://gomakethings.com/the-transitional-web/)
- [Preact](https://preactjs.com/)
- [Petite-Vue](https://github.com/vuejs/petite-vue)
- [SolidJS](https://www.solidjs.com/)
- [Astro](https://astro.build/)
- [The spicy React debate show 🌶️](https://changelog.com/jsparty/244)
- [HTMX](https://htmx.org/)
- [JavaScript is the CO2 of the web](https://changelog.com/jsparty/80)
- [Qwik is a new kind of web framework](https://changelog.com/jsparty/237)
- [Chris's resource list](https://gomakethings.com/js-party/)
-