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title: 'Focus On Call - Episode #13'

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# Focus On Call - Episode #13
September 7<sup>th</sup>, 2022

## Agenda

- [00:00](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow): Intro with Retro
- [0:56](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=56): Discussion and Questions with Centrifuge team
- [52:37](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=3157): Outro

## Video

<https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow>

## Introduction

### Retro

#### Agenda and Preamble
[00:00](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow)

- Welcome everyone to Focus On #13. Today we have an exciting crowd to catch up with Centrifuge for their Q3 update. We are joined by a couple of smiling faces from the Centrifuge team: Lucas Vogelsang, Colin Cunningham, Kevin Chan, and Asad Khan
- For other episodes of FO, please [check the forum](https://forum.makerdao.com/search?q=focus%20on).

## Discussion

### Asad Khan, Lucas Vogelsang, Colin Cunningham, and Kevin Chan

[0:56](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=56)

![Centrifuge: A partners view of Real-World Assets](https://i.imgur.com/y2B0tuv.png)

![Disclaimer](https://i.imgur.com/6JHGVcW.png)

![Table of Contents](https://i.imgur.com/EBfVvXO.png)

![DeFi: Fixing a very broken system](https://i.imgur.com/ZR6xFTk.png)

![Volatility: The Case for RWAs](https://i.imgur.com/lCd0jct.png)

![On-chain RWAs to grow DeFi](https://i.imgur.com/XBSyU9U.png)

![Our history: Maker + Centrifuge](https://i.imgur.com/prtlxdD.png)

![Our goal at Centrifuge](https://i.imgur.com/q5cG8aK.png)

![Where We Are Today](https://i.imgur.com/EdwUc1p.png)

![Where We Are Going](https://i.imgur.com/cpynCoL.png)

![The Tipping Point](https://i.imgur.com/SNWoRi9.png)

![On MetaDAOs](https://i.imgur.com/7cA9tyd.png)

![What would this look like?](https://i.imgur.com/ZFd6C7e.png)

![Bringing Dai to the Real World](https://i.imgur.com/xW4lbE7.png)

![Q&A: Is everything clear?](https://i.imgur.com/ltyTxB7.png)

## Questions 

[24:34 - Kianga Daverington: How would you articulate the value proposition of decentralization, censorship resistance, and no single point of failure, both for MakerDAO's future prospects...?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=1474)

[26:42 - Tim B: Can you explain what an arranger is?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=1602)

[33:43 - ImdioR CFG: The risks of RWA seem far greater than decentralized collateral. Why should Maker engage with assets that can be taken away?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2023)

[35:37 - ImdioR CFG: How does Centrifuge protect Maker's investment?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2137)

[38:56 - CodeKnight: How does this compare to current on-chain credit providers like Truefi, Maple, and Goldfinch?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2336)

[41:57 - Joe King: Do you see a future where energy projects (like battery facilities and Solar panel farms)are financed on-chain?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2517)

[43:31 - Raphael: Can you clarify who the counterparty for Maker MetaDAOs would be? Centrifuge or BlockTower?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2611)

[45:33 - ImdioR CFG: Talking about diversification. What is the Centrifuge team's view on implementing another stablecoin that could be used for Tinlake/Cent Pools(once launched)?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2733)

[47:55 - Marcus: What do you believe is the biggest bottleneck for onboarding RWAs on-chain?](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=2875)

## Closing Comment

### Retro

#### Outro
[52:37](https://youtu.be/7W_YSQzYGow?t=3157)

- Thanks to everyone. Stay tuned to the forums for the latest news. We look forward to seeing the work that Centrifuge is doing. I appreciate the support that you give to our ecosystem. Have a great day.

## Credits

- Kunfu-po produced this summary.
- Everyone who spoke and presented on the call, listed in the headers.