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# Focus On Call - Episode #03
August 25th, 2021
## Agenda
- [00:00](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU): Intro with Juan Guillén
- [00:00](): Focus On Deco: Presentation with Vansi Alluri and Discussion
- [53:15](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=3195): Outro
## Video
<https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU>
## Introduction
### Juan Guillén
#### Agenda and Preamble
[00:00](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU)
- Welcome to another session of MakerDAO. My name is Juan. I am the facilitator of SES CU. Today we will focus on the Deco protocol. They are bringing interesting solutions to change variable fees for fixed fees.
- For other episodes of FO, please [check the forum](https://forum.makerdao.com/search?q=focus%20on).
## Presentation and Discussion
### Vamsi Alluri
[00:45](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=45)
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[14:53 - Juan Guillén: Let's say I purchased this claim token and the SF does not change, then the yield would be zero, is that correct?](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=893)
[00:53 - Someone (from chat): Can Vault owners purchase claim tokens, and can claim tokens be liquid in secondary markets for anybody?](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=953)


[20:11 - Planet_X (from chat): What happens if I forget about my claim free ETH-A tokens? Do they lose all value?](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=1211)







[38:31 - Payton Rose: It looks like our ability to issue these claims is capped by our available debt within a particular hook.](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=2311)
[39:22 - Payton Rose: What would happen if some Vault owners closed? For example, we issue a million, claim, and then everybody flees to a new protocol, suddenly we lose a million?](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=2362)
[40:37 - Planet_X: From a user interaction perspective, would it be possible to hide the claim fee ETH-A token, so the users do not see it? It is possible to secure a fixed rate of 20%, 50%, or 80% with your design. To make it simple, we could hide the entire token and have a check box to request a fixed rate.](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=2437)
[42:35 - Someone: I want to ask about the auctioning of the Fee tokens. It seems that it is a key step, and that is where the risk for MakerDAO would arise. The risk that Maker is taking on is the interest rate fluctuation risk. You collect the equivalent of a fixed rate upfront. You committed to pay that out to fund the Fee tokens later. How do you ensure that those auctions are competitive in a bootstrapping phase?](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=2555)
[46:53 - Planet_X: Is it 100% necessary to integrate this with the Maker protocol? Is it not possible to do a stand-alone development of this?](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=2813)
## Closing Comment
### Juan Guillén
#### Outro
[53:15](https://youtu.be/yGOvf09U4PU?t=3195)
- Thank you for coming and making this a bit clearer! We were all interested in the technology behind it. It was clarifying.
- Vamsi Alluri: Thank you, everyone for joining!
## Credits
- @gala produced this summary.
- Everyone who spoke and presented on the call, listed in the headers.