# Meeting Notes - 14.09.2023 **Participants**: - [x] Casper Welzel Andersen - [x] Rickard Armiento - [x] Francesca Lønstad Bleken - [ ] Matthias Büschelberger - [ ] Stuart Chalk - [ ] Kathrin Frei - [ ] Jesper Friis - [x] Emanuele Ghedini - [ ] Luca Ghiringhelli - [ ] Gerhard Goldbeck - [x] Saulius Grazulis - [x] James Hester - [ ] Antanas Vaitkus - [ ] Nathan Daelman - [ ] Ilaria Maria Paponetti - [x] Oskar Andersson ## Extending last meeting's discussions The discussion of [last meeting's](https://hackmd.io/MrYB3H-MSMCe0FQav1o5sA?view) "choice" between different approaches of describing crystallographic "models" was expanded upon, now with the inputs of Emanuele. It seems (to me) that there is a misunderstanding of what a "structure" is and what crystallographers define as a "model" - both philosophically, but also in terms of how we use it. At the same time there is a misunderstanding of how this should be introduced into EMMO in a way that will satisfy everyone, while keeping it "useful", i.e., meeting the _needs_ we as crystallographers have of the ontology. ### Use case creation I suggest to create a couple of simple use cases to understand how we (the crystallographic community) intend to utilize the ontology. Further, I suggest to start creating a purely taxonomical and mereological (parthood) graph of the concepts constituting a structure (model). The point of creating this graph is so that when the how-to's of tying these concepts into the perspectives of EMMO, we are already 80-90 % done.