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# HAUS Party LIVE! Notes S3Ep7 (10/14/21)

Join us for 🎉 Haus Party Live 🎉 every Thursday at 2pm EST on the [DAOhaus Discord](https://discord.gg/daohaus)

## Notes From the Livestream 🎉

Welcome to our 🌱metaphorical garden!🌱

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**Topics**

- Brian Flynn, scottrepreneur, & the RabbitHole team

**Hosts & Guests**

- Felipe Duarte, dekanbro, Vanilladelphia.eth, vengist
- Brian Flynn, scottrepreneur, & the RabbitHole team

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## Updates from the DAOhaus Universe
- Coordination experiments -- Flash DAO created for anyone who claims a POAP each week
    - Short voting period where folks work to steal the funds from each other
    - Last week we introduced the concept of teams which introduced collusion
    - This week we're setting on 3 teams
- Claim the POAP each week to participate!
- DAOhaus working on Minion Safes
    - On Arbitrum
    - Compensation rework under way -- improving flow for contributors to be able to claim funds

## Introductions
- Brian joined OpenSea as the first hire and worked there for months to find usecases for NFTs
- Moved to Dapper to help *build* the first NFT use case working to get NFT adoption in mainstream
- Early on, realized this is a new way to learn in crypto
- Saw need for web3 education
- "Fighting the beast of speculation" -- most of space focused on finding alpha and opportunities, but these don't always lead to the most sustainable networks and what it means to be crypto native
    - How can we provide an alternative guide and show that there is more to making money? -> Becoming owners in the protocols we use every day
- Since DeFi summer we've seen more people aping in and have lost some of the culture around what it means to be "extremely native"
- How to convert folks from mercenary to missionary? Initially people coming to platform to make money, but then how do you show them that there is more than speculation?
    - Mission to convert folks to becoming missionaries -- Quests are a way to do this

## RabbitHole
- Interesting balance between supply side of RabbitHole (protocols and projects) and demand side (complete tasks and earn crypto)
    - At first, chicken and egg problem -- why would people want to work with RH if no users?
    - Working with top-tier projects in the early days was helpful
- Now that there is a solid amount of inbound projects what is the *role of curator* in an ecosystem where there is lots of noise?
    - Find ourselves being a **guiding light** as a first step for users in the ecosystem
    - Help people to have positive first experiences in crypto and avoid scams and rugpulls
    - Delicate balance of curation as we become the onboarding ramp for new users in the space

### Setting up Quests and Content
- Still a very "hand shaky experience" -- how do people reach out to set up Quests?
- Core team working to bootstrap the ecosystem -- interesting when talking about RabbitHole as a protocol itself when folks can submit Quests and content and then there is a level of curation existing on the platform
    - Eventually RabbitHole needs to become a protocol and there is curation work that'll be critical
- Interesting trying to create the frameworks that get projects onto the platform
- "How do we provide the most positive sum Quests to these protocols?"
- What are some examples that RabbitHole has run in the past?
    - Platform currently runs Quests where protocols supply rewards for users doing onchain actions
        - Balancer, Uniswap, Compound, Aave, The Graph, etc.
    - Today, it's difficult for these protocols to get users -- don't have *acquisition channels*
    - Aggregate users for these protocols and this leads to the projects being pleased with the users RabbitHole is providing
        - "Users aren't just users, they're also users because they're getting tokens from the Quests"
        - How can we give them *quality users* engaged over a long period of time?
    - This is where skills and credentials come into play - users can do these actions on your platform which can then be extended via *Protocol Politician* skill where users vote
    - Credentialing layer of RabbitHole evolving to deeper level as we start to standardize credentials

### DAOing and Decentralization
- Important to have a decentralized governing body to determine how credentials can be used in different networks
- How do you build network effects and guarantee decentralized governance? 
- Seems that RH is building a reputation and credential system around the greater community ecosystem -- Will be interesting to see how these play into identity
- Has RabbitHole had issues with Sybil?
    - Multiple addresses mapped to a single DID will address concerns around SecOps 
- How do you show off credentials?
- DAOhaus Quest coming soon on RabbitHole -- great opportunity to get involved in both ecosystems
    - Mostly has dealt with defi protocols, excited to see how this goes with DAOhaus as a Quest
- RabbitHole providing the *credential layer*
- Credentials and skills are simple right now, but will evolve as the space becomes more defined. Will become more sophisticated and sought after

### Education Evolving
- New generation growing up in digital world and making money in centralized platforms (Roblox), but then Axie is creating new ways
    - What does this mean for educaiton? Education evolving dramatically
    - Interact with protocols and web3 from an early age and do "micro tasks" to prove way through tasks
    - Onboard folks into web3 and will be a fast growing area in education over next 5-10 years
- What would it look like to work with educators in traditional systems?
    - There are lots of systems that have been built? Early on, universities reaching out about credentialing for blockchain education courses
    - RabbitHole allows for opportunity to get education on chain, but how does this bridge into the physical world?
        - Digital world first -> Phyiscal world after

## Brian's Origin Story
- Earliest background is in gaming -- Counterstrike professionally, Guild leader in Guild Wars and World of Warcraft
- Missionary piece resonated fully when Brian got into NFTs
- Was championing NFTs but then turned around and realized it wasn't the best showing of what the space was about
- Realized that there was more to participating in crypto
    - Need to have voices in the space to help shepherd people into the digital world
    - Find the right people and right opportunities to move ecosystem forward
- Did Brian see anything missing in projects he was working on?
    - General level of awareness when bringing folks into the space
    - Always deeper question about "what's next?"
    - Trading and ownership of NFTs is step 1, so what are steps 2, 3, 4, and 5 -- this was what he saw as missing when exploring web3 in early days
        - Folks need to keep an eye on what the new opportunities are and helping moving people to ownership

## Audience Questions
- User education: How much of the gap in user education is with basic skills and knowledge and how much is it bringing the UX up to standard?
    - How much will improvements to UX through projects like RabbitHole help vs. education in general?
    - In 2018, when NFTs and blockchain games were taking off there was a lot of call for UX and abstracting all complexity away 
        - When things are too abstracted, users don't understand what is going on under the hood
        - There are so many variables that it's very challenging to have solid UX, so education is still critical
        - Marketing question: if you ask 10 mainstream folks "what is crypto" you'll likely get answers relating to currency. Not many folks understand the *application level*
            - "Open source operating system" is a whole new layer 
            - Lead with the applications and the application layer 
    - Traders and speculators get the most attention, so folks on the outside looking in see lots about price and price action, not folks talking about inner-workings of DAOs and governance
        - These aren't the pieces being widely shared -- having a way for folks to wade in and go deeper is an effective way to do this
- What makes RabbitHole different from other learning platforms?
    - Highlight the onchain actions as being the important actions that folks should care about
    - Crypto networks broken down into supply & demand sides, and there are often only 2-3 actions per network. Break down these protocols into atomic tasks that users can complete
    - Identify the *core actions* that folks can do
    - Create a **dictionary** of these atomic tasks 
- What is missing? How can folks in the audience take action?
    - There have been marginal improvements since DeFi Summer -- using the same mechanisms, largely
    - RabbitHole works best when there is more interesting content and more interesting crypto networks
    - Folks in the larger ecosystem should look at taking a step back and figure out where we can innovate
    - Would love to work with teams who are looking to push the space forward
- RabbitHole Quests around governance and participation -- to what extend are partners aware of rationality for participating in governance for small holders?
    - Push people inward -- have users have a pathway toward becoming core contributors
    - Users -> core contributors, so the more they can educate small token holders about governance is critical to onboarding core contributors
- Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic motivation:
    - Extrinsic can attract folks in, but Intrinsic helps keep folks around
    - Lean more heavily to intrinsic motivation
    - Important to DAOs to find folks who are intrinsically motivated to participate and push the DAO forward

## Resources
- https://rabbithole.gg/
- https://rabbithole.mirror.xyz/
- https://twitter.com/rabbithole_gg
