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# HAUS Party LIVE! Notes S3Ep7 (10/14/21)
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**Topics**
- Brian Flynn, scottrepreneur, & the RabbitHole team
**Hosts & Guests**
- Felipe Duarte, dekanbro, Vanilladelphia.eth, vengist
- Brian Flynn, scottrepreneur, & the RabbitHole team
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## Updates from the DAOhaus Universe
- Coordination experiments -- Flash DAO created for anyone who claims a POAP each week
- Short voting period where folks work to steal the funds from each other
- Last week we introduced the concept of teams which introduced collusion
- This week we're setting on 3 teams
- Claim the POAP each week to participate!
- DAOhaus working on Minion Safes
- On Arbitrum
- Compensation rework under way -- improving flow for contributors to be able to claim funds
## Introductions
- Brian joined OpenSea as the first hire and worked there for months to find usecases for NFTs
- Moved to Dapper to help *build* the first NFT use case working to get NFT adoption in mainstream
- Early on, realized this is a new way to learn in crypto
- Saw need for web3 education
- "Fighting the beast of speculation" -- most of space focused on finding alpha and opportunities, but these don't always lead to the most sustainable networks and what it means to be crypto native
- How can we provide an alternative guide and show that there is more to making money? -> Becoming owners in the protocols we use every day
- Since DeFi summer we've seen more people aping in and have lost some of the culture around what it means to be "extremely native"
- How to convert folks from mercenary to missionary? Initially people coming to platform to make money, but then how do you show them that there is more than speculation?
- Mission to convert folks to becoming missionaries -- Quests are a way to do this
## RabbitHole
- Interesting balance between supply side of RabbitHole (protocols and projects) and demand side (complete tasks and earn crypto)
- At first, chicken and egg problem -- why would people want to work with RH if no users?
- Working with top-tier projects in the early days was helpful
- Now that there is a solid amount of inbound projects what is the *role of curator* in an ecosystem where there is lots of noise?
- Find ourselves being a **guiding light** as a first step for users in the ecosystem
- Help people to have positive first experiences in crypto and avoid scams and rugpulls
- Delicate balance of curation as we become the onboarding ramp for new users in the space
### Setting up Quests and Content
- Still a very "hand shaky experience" -- how do people reach out to set up Quests?
- Core team working to bootstrap the ecosystem -- interesting when talking about RabbitHole as a protocol itself when folks can submit Quests and content and then there is a level of curation existing on the platform
- Eventually RabbitHole needs to become a protocol and there is curation work that'll be critical
- Interesting trying to create the frameworks that get projects onto the platform
- "How do we provide the most positive sum Quests to these protocols?"
- What are some examples that RabbitHole has run in the past?
- Platform currently runs Quests where protocols supply rewards for users doing onchain actions
- Balancer, Uniswap, Compound, Aave, The Graph, etc.
- Today, it's difficult for these protocols to get users -- don't have *acquisition channels*
- Aggregate users for these protocols and this leads to the projects being pleased with the users RabbitHole is providing
- "Users aren't just users, they're also users because they're getting tokens from the Quests"
- How can we give them *quality users* engaged over a long period of time?
- This is where skills and credentials come into play - users can do these actions on your platform which can then be extended via *Protocol Politician* skill where users vote
- Credentialing layer of RabbitHole evolving to deeper level as we start to standardize credentials
### DAOing and Decentralization
- Important to have a decentralized governing body to determine how credentials can be used in different networks
- How do you build network effects and guarantee decentralized governance?
- Seems that RH is building a reputation and credential system around the greater community ecosystem -- Will be interesting to see how these play into identity
- Has RabbitHole had issues with Sybil?
- Multiple addresses mapped to a single DID will address concerns around SecOps
- How do you show off credentials?
- DAOhaus Quest coming soon on RabbitHole -- great opportunity to get involved in both ecosystems
- Mostly has dealt with defi protocols, excited to see how this goes with DAOhaus as a Quest
- RabbitHole providing the *credential layer*
- Credentials and skills are simple right now, but will evolve as the space becomes more defined. Will become more sophisticated and sought after
### Education Evolving
- New generation growing up in digital world and making money in centralized platforms (Roblox), but then Axie is creating new ways
- What does this mean for educaiton? Education evolving dramatically
- Interact with protocols and web3 from an early age and do "micro tasks" to prove way through tasks
- Onboard folks into web3 and will be a fast growing area in education over next 5-10 years
- What would it look like to work with educators in traditional systems?
- There are lots of systems that have been built? Early on, universities reaching out about credentialing for blockchain education courses
- RabbitHole allows for opportunity to get education on chain, but how does this bridge into the physical world?
- Digital world first -> Phyiscal world after
## Brian's Origin Story
- Earliest background is in gaming -- Counterstrike professionally, Guild leader in Guild Wars and World of Warcraft
- Missionary piece resonated fully when Brian got into NFTs
- Was championing NFTs but then turned around and realized it wasn't the best showing of what the space was about
- Realized that there was more to participating in crypto
- Need to have voices in the space to help shepherd people into the digital world
- Find the right people and right opportunities to move ecosystem forward
- Did Brian see anything missing in projects he was working on?
- General level of awareness when bringing folks into the space
- Always deeper question about "what's next?"
- Trading and ownership of NFTs is step 1, so what are steps 2, 3, 4, and 5 -- this was what he saw as missing when exploring web3 in early days
- Folks need to keep an eye on what the new opportunities are and helping moving people to ownership
## Audience Questions
- User education: How much of the gap in user education is with basic skills and knowledge and how much is it bringing the UX up to standard?
- How much will improvements to UX through projects like RabbitHole help vs. education in general?
- In 2018, when NFTs and blockchain games were taking off there was a lot of call for UX and abstracting all complexity away
- When things are too abstracted, users don't understand what is going on under the hood
- There are so many variables that it's very challenging to have solid UX, so education is still critical
- Marketing question: if you ask 10 mainstream folks "what is crypto" you'll likely get answers relating to currency. Not many folks understand the *application level*
- "Open source operating system" is a whole new layer
- Lead with the applications and the application layer
- Traders and speculators get the most attention, so folks on the outside looking in see lots about price and price action, not folks talking about inner-workings of DAOs and governance
- These aren't the pieces being widely shared -- having a way for folks to wade in and go deeper is an effective way to do this
- What makes RabbitHole different from other learning platforms?
- Highlight the onchain actions as being the important actions that folks should care about
- Crypto networks broken down into supply & demand sides, and there are often only 2-3 actions per network. Break down these protocols into atomic tasks that users can complete
- Identify the *core actions* that folks can do
- Create a **dictionary** of these atomic tasks
- What is missing? How can folks in the audience take action?
- There have been marginal improvements since DeFi Summer -- using the same mechanisms, largely
- RabbitHole works best when there is more interesting content and more interesting crypto networks
- Folks in the larger ecosystem should look at taking a step back and figure out where we can innovate
- Would love to work with teams who are looking to push the space forward
- RabbitHole Quests around governance and participation -- to what extend are partners aware of rationality for participating in governance for small holders?
- Push people inward -- have users have a pathway toward becoming core contributors
- Users -> core contributors, so the more they can educate small token holders about governance is critical to onboarding core contributors
- Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic motivation:
- Extrinsic can attract folks in, but Intrinsic helps keep folks around
- Lean more heavily to intrinsic motivation
- Important to DAOs to find folks who are intrinsically motivated to participate and push the DAO forward
## Resources
- https://rabbithole.gg/
- https://rabbithole.mirror.xyz/
- https://twitter.com/rabbithole_gg