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# HAUS Party LIVE! Notes (3/31/22)

Join us for 🎉 Haus Party Live 🎉 every Thursday at 2pm EST on the [DAOhaus Discord](https://discord.gg/daohaus)

## Guests
- Felipe, TravisWyche, vanilladelphia, Ven, Dekan, 
- Community Members from the Audience

🌱 - quotes

## Duality

***When you thought we couldn't get more abstract, we went binary. Bring your inner demons and your outer angels, it's time to dig a rabbit hole.***

***Language creates dichotomy, description requires analogy...but how do we navigate the mire of opposition and emerge whole?***

***"To see a World in a Grain of Sand, And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour" William Blake would have liked HP.***

[Pre-Party Prep Notes](https://hackmd.io/@daohaus/Hkx1cJSqzc)

[Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1442380732)

This is a continuation of the experiment we've been conducting for HausParty, where we're focusing on themes.  Talking about Anticaptiture lead to democracy, which lead to scale and then competition and now dualilty.

Do we compete or coordinate? 

Is it black and white?

What about duality and non-duality?  That wont get us very far.

### Duality and DAOs

How will Web3/DAO space allow us to experiment with those alternatives and move beyond dualist thinking?  Is that pluralism?

DAO value prop - No individual is in control.  Organically, if power is distributed, decisions that do get made are an agrigate of everyones' decisioan. 

It's worth me sharing my opinion, because my voice does have power in this more pluralistic view. 

Different perspectives from all over the place
Amorphous blob of what is consensus and reality

A DAO could evolve into anything, including duality and dictatorships.

The DAO code shouldn't be opinionated.

We should be writing into the code that forces pluralist.  But it's kinda already there as a blank state.

DAOs priortitize the autonomy of the individual

We might consider avoiding creating rules and constraints on duality and instead maximize autonomy.

More diffusion and dispersal of information that's shared collectively in DAOs.

We are a culture that values individuals and the collective.  What is that balance so we can have both?

### Sliding Scales of Gradience

The polarity is available and needed because of language. Brillance is navigatable after deep understanding.

We can keep contraditions. We don't need oppositions. Don't take that for granted. Something momentous is possible.

There's sliding scales of gradience, like how competitive or colaborative, virtical and horizontal scale.

Consider our limited cognition as individuals and collectives.

Witnessing products, teams and communities with Ethereum, and we don't know how to universally agree on definitions.  Sometimes we compete and sometimes we collaborate, but web3 observations are so different from web2. 

Web3 is an educational operations space.

### Universal Definitions

Right or wrong ways of doing things: Tyranny or morality or efficiency or optimization

Univeral Definitions - striving for clairity and variability

what is and what is of

Universality of DAO templates or what a DAO is

Shall we welcome the lack of clarity? is that a sacrifice of efficiency?

Should we try to do things wrong to unlearn and discover new understanding?

### Fidelity and Consensus

[Conways Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_law) - organization recapitulate organization structures that it forms

proposal process vs list of agents' expressed preferences

individual level, we know what's in our understanding and can have a higher fidelity list of preferences.

larger consesus, doesn't have the high fidelity, but includes all our subjected preferences with inner subjective aggregation of all those subjective experiences

Measuring the Shoreline and fideltity

How self managment and organization structures relate to consensus and fidelity

consensus makes a duality - yay or nay 

What is the non dual proposal vote if it's not yes or no?

democratic consensus model forces duality? is it always best?

the subtle discussion, with iterative process, happens before the vote

fidelity and compromise

Integrative decision making models:
- integrate as much as you can in the proposal
- all the tensions can't be included
- too many compromises waters down the proposal

The camel is the horse the committee approved.

Objective testing methodology that everyone has agreed upon

problem without a solution: hanging within two polar opposites - modulating back and forth

[Staying with the Trouble](https://www.dukeupress.edu/staying-with-the-trouble) by Donna J Haraway

Policies shape things, including behavior, in the favor of those in power and hard to revert.

### Beyond Dualities

How can we do a better job of modulating between dualities within DAOs?

DAOhaus compensation can be an example because there's variability and flexibility.

Beyond dualities: 
- what are DAO proposals if not dualities?
- theoretically can have multiple options?
    - strategic voting issues
- quadratic funding
    - oposite of dualities
    - can have a large set of options to choose from
    - allocate your resources towards your favorites
    - aggregation is end state

Yes and no is the simplest version. Do complexities make the problems worse? 

Complexities create a specialized class who can navigate (lawyers).

### Apetures of Understanding

Find balance within the gradients and iteratively modulate that based on the current state.

What compromises are we willing to make?

our cognitive limitations and added complexities

low fidelity can be more inclusive and allows many to participate

high fidelity allows us to rise as a community - the rising sea rases all the boats

Scott Alexander - raising the high water mark for sanity

Apetures of Understanding

be of two minds can be paralizing - doubt and suspision

iChing - the way out of doubt is through inquiry

🌱"Practice inquiry and practice deeper levels of understanding."🌱

[The Suicide Bomber; and her gift of death](https://www.atropospress.com/the-suicide-bomber-and-her-gift-of-death), Jeremy Fernando  (Author), Wolfgang Schirmacher (Editor)

Dualities and binaries within themself - knowledge is always there but sometimes its forgotten and it's not forgotten until it's remembered.

We don't have all the perfect solutions.

[DoerDAO](https://dorahacks.io/buidl/1956) - experiment with what proposal processes look like with no specific prescription so emergence is allowed.

Collective remembering:  We generate knowlege and remember knowledge through actions, behaviors and relationships.

[His Dark Materials](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Dark_Materials) by Philip Pullman

Garden of Eden
- god is the enemy and the snake is friendly, because god is controlling knowledge and the snake is sharing it
- Eve is the first punk and decided to take learning in her own hands
- Eve's sin was to presume to have the same knowledge of god

Hero's Journey - the hero in the hero's journey isn't negating death they're more radically devoted to life.

When we admit that we don't know the answers, we allow space for answers that we couldn't have prescripted.

Dualism - spiritual - navigating reality - objective interpretations of commandments

HumanDAO - living wages in Philippines through NFT gaming

How do we overcome duality to facilitate unity of experiences and views?

[Barbarians at the Gate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate)

### Non Dualized Dualism

Non Dualized Dualism - dualities are bad or good - are they a tool - not the identity and final outcome

duality is a linguistic tool

🌱"Dualtiy is the lowest resolution to understand an orbit."🌱

mapping out and navigating the textures of hemispheres of the orbit and activationg each polarity as needed

[Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Oedipus) (rye zone) - Freud's method is full of dualities and locks us into psychotic point of view - would rather be schizophrenic out on a walk then neurotic and strapped to the analyst's sofa.

What is the schizophrenic experience when they walk down the street?

Design philosopy - limit choices

Language makes us try to linearize

Inevitible crime of taxonimy

being and becoming - engine under the seat of consciousness - monatic seed

break beyond the monad to other world views and other styles of world making

🌱"I always say never."🌱