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# conda-forge core meeting 2023-06-14
Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading
- [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
- [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
- [Last week's meeting](https://hackmd.io/#REPLACE_ME#)
## Attendees
| Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation |
| ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- |
| matthew r becker | mrb | beckermr | cf |
| Filipe Fernandes | FF | ocefpaf | conda-forge |
| John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf |
| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | chenghlee | Anaconda/cf |
| Dave Clements | DPC | tnabtaf | Anaconda |
| Jaime RodrÃguez-Guerra | JRG | jaimergp | Quansight/cf |
| Ken Odegard | KO | kenodegard | Anaconda |
| | | | |
| James Loy | JML | jmlphd | Anaconda |
| Mark Anderson | MAA | markan | Anaconda |
| | | | |
17 people total
### Standing items
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### From previous meeting(s)
- [ ] (HV) Windows Fortran migration (see below)
### Active votes
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### Your __new__() agenda items
- [x] (JK) Summarize recent Linux build outage issue
- https://github.com/conda-forge/status/issues/144
- all linux runners were down
- package on defaults (Anaconda `main`) uploaded to wrong subdir
- broke libsolv in repodata fetch - so early in jobs that it broke everything
- discussed with anaconda, they fixed it
- we removed defaults everywhere
- how to improve:
- process on anaconda side
- [conda-index fix](https://github.com/conda/conda-index/issues/105) to reject bad packages
- JK:
- schema and validation tool for repodata so we can check things
- more tests!
- JRG:
- relax conditions in libsolv that made it barf on this package
- maybe apply patch to our feedstock of libsolv
- CHL
- maybe worth raising how to improve in next week's conda community meeting; e.g., Anaconda customers have long-tail of backwards compatibilty needs (`free` channel still gets used)
- Wolf:
- we can ask if we can roll back this change - maybe change to warning
- the change: https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv/blob/2fc0cb31a2010d70f3f9197189730400edbd6ef4/ext/repo_conda.c#L315-L319
- [x] (JK) CUDA 12
- cuda 12 migrator is going!
- 30 feedstocks are done
- changes to commit messaging by Daniel
- [x] (JK) GLIBC 2.28
- docker image PR working - needs to be merged after addressing comments
- interesting discussion about [earthly](https://github.com/earthly/earthly) versus Docker for containers.
- MB Was thinking of making changes to smithy, but will change docker images to alma8 instead
- (MB) Big lift remaining is to rebuild all the CDTs
- [x] (JK) Windows + ARM
- Some discussion with MS about CI runners.
- Jaime will be added to thread
- [x] (JK) Drop some older CUDAs
- Probably time to drop CUDA 10.2 at least
- Only [CUDA 11.0+ supported by these data center drivers]( https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/drivers/#cuda-drivers )
- Docker Support Policy
- https://gitlab.com/nvidia/container-images/cuda/blob/master/doc/support-policy.md
- TL;DR some older images are planned for removal soon
- Have explored this before
- https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/pull/1708
- What should the new minimum be?
- 11.0+ (lower version of 11?)
- Do we want to keep or drop 11.1 here?
- 11.2+
- CUDA Enhanced Compatibility
- (MvN) Pinged Keith about CUDA 10.2 and he is ok dropping
- everyone says we should drop 10.2 (JRG to check with openmm and google colab)
- JRG: Colab is on CUDA 11.8 now! :tada:
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- [x] (HV) Boost unification
- [PR](https://github.com/conda-forge/boost-feedstock/pull/164) ready, currently aiming at `boost_dev` label until as-of-yet unspecified improvements can be completed
- Migrator [PR](https://github.com/regro/cf-scripts/pull/1668) exists and should be pretty complete
- Would like to do this before CPython 3.12 in the fall
- [x] (HV) Windows Fortran [migration](https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/pull/1359)
- Open since 2 years; fortran-on-win-migratability will be necessary for scipy soon to support meson builds
- Migrator work that Isuru wanted has been done - can we start?
- Side benefit: Would [enable](https://github.com/conda-forge/openblas-feedstock/pull/115) openblas+openmp on windows
- [x] (JRG) SDG reports: opt-in CI, conda/schemas
- [x] (WV) ceps for new conda-build YAML schema
- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/56
- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/54
- [x] (DPC) [PackagingCon 2023](https://packaging-con.org/) CFP and registration are open
- [x] (DPC) Conda newsletter is coming
- Anything in particular from conda-forge to highlight?
- Maybe Asmit's work?
- CUDA 12
- Conda-Forge NumFOCUS
- Look for issues in conda-forge/blog for ideas.
- https://github.com/conda-forge/blog/issues
### Pushed to next meeting
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### CFEPs
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