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# conda-forge core meeting 2023-11-01

Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading

- [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
- [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
- [Last week's meeting](https://hackmd.io/#REPLACE_ME#)

## Attendees

| Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation |
| ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- |
| Marius van Niekerk | MvN | mariusvniekerk | Voltron Data/c-f |
| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | chenghlee | Anaconda/c-f |
| Dave Clements | DPC | tnabtaf | Anaconda |
| Marcel Bargull | MB | mbargull | Bioconda/cf |
| Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | jaimergp | Quansight/cf |
| Wolf Vollprecht | WV | wolfv | prefix.dev. |
| Filipe Fernandes | FF | ocefpaf | conda-forge |
| Daniel Ching | DJC | carterbox | Argonne National Lab |
| Matthew R Becker | MRB | beckermr | cf |
| Mark A Anderson | MAA | markan | anaconda |
| John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf |

14 people total

### Standing items

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### From previous meeting(s)

- [x] (HV) archspec-enabled
- Since last time conda has started depending on archspec package.
- Progressing...
- Will revisit in a meeting or two
- [x] (JK) m2 recipes
- Postpone
- [x] (JK) Windows ARM
- Isuru syncing with MSFT

### Active votes

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### Your `__new__()` agenda items

- [x] (JK) We/NVIDIA are hiring.
- https://nvidia.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/NVIDIAExternalCareerSite/job/US-CA-Remote/Senior-Engineer--Infrastructure--Build--and-Packaging---RAPIDS_JR1973615
- [x] (HV) next steps for MacOS 10.13
- jinja for `stdlib("c")` was merged into conda-build (not yet released)
- what's the next step? admin migration to add `{{ stdlib("c") }}` wherever there's a `{{ compiler("c") }}`?
- MRB recommends agains an admin migration as too intrusive. Be better to have a mini-migrator that rolls it out to new feed stocks.
- JRG: 4.3k recipes with `compiler('c')` ([gh search](https://github.com/search?q=org%3Aconda-forge+path%3Ameta.yaml+compiler%28%22c%22%29+OR+compiler%28%27c%27%29&type=code))
- MRB will comment about places where (linux) sysroot is set in our infra in the [issue](https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1844).
- WV will open an issue or a CFEP for this discussion.
- This issue came up because there is a part of the build that is hidden, it is not exposed anywhere
- [x] (HV) Tracking issue for CUDA 12 on win?
- https://github.com/conda-forge/cuda-nvcc-feedstock got windows support today
- Something like [https://github.com/conda-forge/staged-recipes/issues/21382] for windows?
- JK: No issue yet. Would be good to confirm that it works before we start rolling it out everywhere
- [x] (WV) First CEP for recipe spec accepted :tada: ... now unto the next
- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/blob/main/cep-13.md (accepted)
- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/56 (the next one!)
- Pure YAML.
- There is another CEP for key/values.
- Drastic changes to multiple outputs.
- Large changes to the test section.
- List of tests, composed of test elements.
- JRG: only ~100 recipes use `for` loops [[search](https://github.com/search?q=org%3Aconda-forge%20path%3Arecipe%2Fmeta.yaml%20%22%7B%25%20for%22&type=code)]
- (MRB) Be careful when just abandoning keys in current spec. They were put there for a reason. Try to understand those reasons, even if we don't keep them.
- [x] (MB) Intent to archive `ruamel_yaml` feedstock
- https://github.com/conda-forge/ruamel_yaml-feedstock/issues/107
- conda now dependent on upstream version.
- [x] (DPC) Anything to highlight in the November conda newsletter?
- [ ] (DPC) Is it time to get off twitter?
- FF: We should mmove period.
- BlueSky account is secured.
- Not clear which Mastodon server we should use
- It's a slow move. We should have both for some time.
- Point Twitter to new one
- Dave and Filipe will coordinate across conda-forge and conda.

### Pushed to next meeting

- [ ] (HV) archspec-enabled
- [ ] (JK) m2 recipes
- [ ] (JK) Windows ARM

### CFEPs

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