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# 2024-03-27 Conda Community Meeting

[Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505) · [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)

Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.

## Attendees

| Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username |
| ---------------------- | -------- | ------------ | ---------------- |
| Schuyler Martin | SM | Anaconda | schuylermartin45 |
| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda/cf | chenghlee |
| Marcel Bargull | MB | Bioconda/cf | mbargull |
| Daniel Holth | DH | Anaconda | dholth |
| Klaus Zimmermann | KZ | Quansight | zklaus |
| Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | Quansight/cf | jaimergp |
| Marius van Niekerk | MvN | Voltron Data/cf | mariusvniekerk |
| Bas Zalmstra | BZ | Prefix.dev | baszalmstra |
| Michael Sarahan | MCS | NVIDIA/CF | msarahan |
| Nichita Morcotilo | NM | Prefix.dev | nichmor |
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## Introductions

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## Announcements

- [x] (MB) First recipes using `stdlib("c")` jinja function landed on `conda-forge`
- Spearheaded by HV
- Allows recipe to explictly declare, e.g., what macOS, glibc versions are being targeted
- More details: https://conda-forge.org/news/2024/03/24/stdlib-migration/ & https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/2102
- [x] (SM) [~85%](https://github.com/conda-incubator/conda-recipe-manager/pull/13) of Anaconda Recipes can be "successfully" converted to the new format
- "Success" means no crashing, no errors detected.
- Error detection not guaranteed to be perfect
- Success does not mean the output conforms to the standard/is consumable by rattler-build
- Working on developing automated integration testing to get better data
- Would like to have a few thousand `meta.yaml` files from `conda-forge` and `AnacondaRecipes`
- [x] (NM) (https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-smithy/pull/1876) Initial integration of rattler-build in conda-smithy

## New Agenda Items

- [x] (MB) Load/performance issues on anaconda.org ?
- https://github.com/conda/infrastructure/issues/899
- [x] (MB) Python 3.12 builds for `conda-forge::conda-build=24.3` should land today.
- Anything else "big" missing for Python 3.12 on `conda-forge`/`defaults`?
- (CHL) On Anaconda's side, we're more or less done, especially ts
- [x] (CHL) Should we add version & build to `__win` virtual package?
- Anaconda's and conda-forge's `repodata.json` currently only use non-versioned `__win` for run requirements.
- We should ask Isuru at next week's conda-forge core meeting
- [Matrix thread](https://matrix.to/#/!SgckMCYyQUhdyooKZe:gitter.im/$19hBiZckmbZpIHTsEIV1yKfFza81_tgiRmzHpLVcNNo?via=gitter.im&via=matrix.org&via=tum.de) started by mamba team
- https://www.whatismybrowser.com/guides/the-latest-user-agent/windows
- Do we _need_ a CEP?
- (MB) We should definitely coordinate between mamba and conda, but not sure we actually need a CEP
- (BZ) Please also include rattler in the conversation.
- (JRG) Should take this as an opportunity to revisit old decisions about other platforms like macOS versions
- (MB) Let's put different OSes into one CEP.
- (CHL) Based on this converstions, let's put together a "quick" CEP.

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