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# 2023-06-07 Conda Community Meeting
[Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505) · [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.
## Attendees
| Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username |
| ---------------------- | -------- | ------------ | ---------------- |
| Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf |
| Travis Hathaway | TH | Anaconda | travishathaway |
| Filipe Fernandes | FF | conda-forge | ocefpaf |
| Jonathan Helmus | JH | Anaconda | jjhelmus |
| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda/cf | chenghlee |
| Katherine Chen Abrikian | KCA | Anaconda | kalawac |
| Marius van Niekerk | MvN | Voltron Data/cf | mariusvniekerk |
| Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine |
| Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda/cf | jezdez |
| John Kirkham | JK | NVIDIA/cf | jakirkham |
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13 people in total
## Introductions
- [ ] Jonathan Helmus back in the conda-verse
## Announcements
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## New Agenda Items
- [x] (DPC) [Draft project update for NumFOCUS June Newsletter](https://github.com/conda/communications/blob/main/workspace/2023/06/2023-06-conda-numfocus-project-update.md)
- Please add / comment / etc.
- DPC will submit to NumFOCUS on his Friday morning (US Pacific Time).
- [x] (JH) Optional dependencies in conda
- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kg5uAmBHD690av7or0XO3F-ObRIDGKNw3up8kE_kc8A/edit?usp=sharing
- [x] (TH) `pre_command` and `post_command` plugin hooks (should be ready by version `23.7.0` 🤞)
- [x] Demo project showing how `pre_command` works: https://github.com/travishathaway/conda-envlock/
- [x] Consider naming it to conda-protect; don't include the word lock
- [x] Ideas were originally discussed in this CEP draft: https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/45
- [x] JL: Need to be coordinating messaging towards users when we explain "locking", e.g. overlap with conda-lock and https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/12245
- [x] (TH) I might be coming to your repository to submit a pull request if you have a conda subcommand tool (e.g. conda-project, conda-lock)
- Subcommand plugin hooks.
- [x] (KCA) plugins to manage activate/deactivate functionality -- POSIX prototypes ready for review and comments:
- [conda PR](https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/12721)
- [gist explaining considerations](https://gist.github.com/kalawac/8a05141237a59f0f4e9830096704eb4f) (draft CEP to be created and will be linked under gist)
- [x] (JL) conda-libmamba-solver
- We should be more clear on what we intend to do.
- Will ship `conda-libmamba-solver` in 2023.05 Miniconda & Anaconda installers, but not enabled by default.
- Target September (2023.09) releases to make libmamba the default solver.
- Classic solver will still be available.