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# 2022-04-13 Conda Community Meeting

* [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
* [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-04-13/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting)

## Attendees

| Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username |
| ------------------- | -------- | ------------- | ---------------- |
| Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf |
| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda | chenghlee |
| Matthew R Becker | MRB | cf | beckermr |
| Kartik Raj | KR | Python VSCode | karrtikr |
| Filipe Fernandes | FF | | |
| Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | beeankha |
| Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine |
| John Kirkham | JK | NVIDIA/cf | jakirkham |
| Mike McCarty | MM | NVIDIA | mmccarty |
| Sebastien Awwad | SA | Anaconda | awwad |
| Marcelo Duarte Trevisani | MDT | conda-forge | marcelotrevisani |
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19 people present

## Introductions

* Kartik Raj (VS Code)

## Announcements

## Standing Items

## New Agenda Items

* (CHL/JK) Stopping `noarch: python` builds on Anaconda defaults
* Conflates architecture- and interpreter-version independece
* Various kludges to get noarch working with arch-sensitive components
* Expect further discussions as we iterate on the recipe, dependency spec format
* (KR) Discuss state of Python ext VSCode and conda
* https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/70248
* Is `conda activate` always necessary? Is a shell always necessary? - Probably, yes (de-facto API). Without it, environment setup would likely not work correctly.
* Details about activation in release notes here: https://github.com/conda/conda/releases/tag/4.4.0
* (JK) `test/commands` & `run_test.*` currently exclusive (unintended?)
* https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1490
* https://github.com/conda/conda-build/issues/4427
* (JK) Transitive dependencies
* https://github.com/conda/conda-build/issues/3308
* (JK) Setuptools deprecation affecting `load_setup_py_data`
* https://github.com/conda/conda-build/issues/4428
* Also impacts grayskull
* We need to track down the PEP announcing this change
* (CHL) Propose some topic for PyCon Packaging Summit?
* Specifying external library dependencies (brought up previously)
* how to deal with install requirements

## Deferred Agenda Items

## Outstanding Items From the Previous Meeting

([Previous meeting notes](https://hackmd.io/GD0NBIu9SEuOCgF4-N5NHw?view).)

## Active Votes

## Subteam Updates

## Open PRs

## Discussion

## Action items

## Last meeting points

## What is this meeting for?

Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.