--- tags: [meeting-notes] --- # 2023-02-01 Conda Community Meeting * [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) * [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-12-07/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting) ## Attendees | Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username | | -------------------------| -------- | -------------------------- | ------------------ | | Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda/cf | jezdez | | Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf | | Daniel Holth | DH | Anaconda | dholth | | Filipe Fernandes | FF | conda-forge | ocefpaf | | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine | | Mahe Iram Khan | MIK | Anaconda | forgottenprogramme | | Marius van Niekerk | MvN | conda-forge/conda-steering | mariusvniekerk | | Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | Quansight/cf | jaimergp | | Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | beeankha | | Travis Hathaway | TH | Anaconda | travishathaway | | Ken Odegard | KO | Anaconda | kenodegard | | Srivas Venkatesh | SV | Anaconda | sven6002 | | | | | | 15 people total ## Introductions - [ ] ## Announcements - [x] JL: :lock: [conda-lock has graduated from conda-incubator to main conda organization](https://github.com/conda/conda-lock/issues/319) :tada: - This may be the first of the projects that originated outside of Anaconda. - That's a big step forward. - And it's only the beginning - Want to move some code from conda-lock to conda itself. - (libconda may be coming, and it may be useful here) - [x] JL: Ongoing governance votes: - [ ] :alarm_clock: [Setting up a new "infrastructure" subteam](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/84) (due today!) - Probably already have enough votes to decide. - [ ] :skull: [Graduate grayskull from conda-incubator to conda main organization](https://github.com/conda-incubator/grayskull/issues/436) (due 2022-02-07 EOD AoE) - Now with CRAN and pyproject support! - Want to add Poetry and Flit support - When will Grayskull replace the PyPI Skeleton? - CPAN (or CRAN?) support needed to move closer to Skeleton's set of capabilities - MVN: We can deprecate the skeleton PyPI parts. - JL: conda has a deprecation policy. - We can deprecate a command. - conda-build work is ramping up (see New agenda items below) and skeleton is low hanging fruit. - [x] JL: :world_map: [Adoption](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/61) of [Anywhere On Earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anywhere_on_Earth) for vote deadlines in governance policy - [x] KO: conda 23.1.0 is out on pkgs/main, still stuck on conda-forge - `mamba`/`libsolv` complains about `repodata.json` with mixed `subdir` (package's `subdir` doesn't match the `repodata.json` `subdir`), conda doesn't check for this hence why the issue wasn't identified earlier - the conda-build bug with downstream tests has been identified - https://github.com/conda/conda-build/issues/4750 - https://github.com/conda/conda-build/pull/4763 ## New Agenda Items - [x] JL: [New epic to improve maintenance of conda-build](https://github.com/conda/conda-build/issues/4697) - [ ] Among other things proposes to transition conda-build into a community project similar to the very successful constructor team - [x] JL: Intention to launch: Conda Installer Team - [ ] future conda community governance team to handle underlying code/proceses to build conda installers - [ ] interest into joining miniforge and mambaforge into the team/repo? - [ ] still in the aligning/team charter writing phase - [X] JRG/GV: Brainstorm session for a ["packaging maintainer dashboard"](https://github.com/Quansight-Labs/czi-conda-forge-mgmt/issues/14). - JRG: [Figma mockups](https://www.figma.com/proto/OyJAi7Xjl1J4Zo0OsMVBV4/Migration-status?page-id=369%3A7874&node-id=370%3A8160&viewport=452%2C-29%2C0.36&scaling=scale-down&starting-point-node-id=370%3A8160) by Gabriela Vives @ QuantStack - Similar projects about dashboarding and metrics: https://chaoss.community/, https://bitergia.com/bitergia-analytics/ - [x] DPC: PyCon Community booth for conda and conda-forge? - Tania, Jannis, Bianca, Dave C, will be there - [x] DPC: Will be submitting something to [Open Source Summit NA](https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/), particularly the Open Source On-Ramp sub-conference - Deadline is this Sunday - Talk/Tutorials - Intro to using conda and/or - Publishing your software in conda-forge - Your idea here! - [x] DH: Working on potentially mamba-interoperable cache locking. Lock new \<cache-hash>.state.json byte 21 to do anything to cached repodata.json; use `refresh_ns` in state to determine cache expiry instead of repodata.json mtime, re https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/46 - [x] JRG: Meeting notes archive is out of date (last update in June 2022) - https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/tree/main/meetings/archive - [x] SV: SPIKE ticket (to open): User Experince with including Taxonomy of Exception/Error messages from `conda-build` execution ## What is this meeting for? Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.