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# 2022-07-06 Conda Community Meeting
* [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
* [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-07-06/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting)
## Attendees
| Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username |
| -------------------------| -------- | ------------- | ------------------ |
| Marius van Niekerk | MvN | Voltron Data | mariusvniekerk |
| Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | tnabtaf |
| Matthew Becker | MRB | cf | beckermr |
| Eric Dill | ED | Voltron Data | ericdill |
| Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | beeankha |
| Daniel Ching | DJC | Argonne | carterbox |
| Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda | jezdez |
| Jaime RodrÃguez-Guerra | JRG | Quansight/cf | jaimergp |
| Filipe Fernandes | FF | conda-forge | ocefpaf |
| Cheng H. Lee | CHL | Anaconda | chenghlee |
| Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | kathatherine |
| Ken Odegard | KO | Anaconda | kenodegard |
| Sebastien Awwad | SA | Anaconda | awwad |
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19 people present
## Introductions
## Announcements
- [x] (JL) New constructor team and move of constructor, conda-pack and menuinst from "federated" to "community" projects (following the conda governance policy)
- [ ] mixed maintainer team from Anaconda and other organizations
- [ ] conda-standalone possibly also covered (but no separate repo at the moment yet)
- [x] Ongoing vote to adopt a new Code of Conduct for conda, steering council members, please vote!
- [ ] https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/49
- [x] CEP 6 (Channel notices) accepted and merged!
- [ ] https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11462
- [x] (BH) Plugins updates
- [Conda plugins mechanism CEP](https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/32/files?short_path=f0e66da#diff-f0e66dabb51091adcea87317af330c0bdca833ee855341d963e6d634fe3179d6) is on the `conda-incubator` repo and ready for review/discussion! It's related to [this plugins PR](https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11435)
- An introductory blog post has been drafted and will be published once the plugins mechanism CEP is voted on/approved and the plugins PR is merged
- [x] (CHL) SciPy 2022 events
- Fri 11:30 - 12:00 (Room 203): conda-forge maintainers talk
- Sat/Sun, all day (Room TBD): sprints
- (Planned) Lightning talk - governance updates
- Community attendees: Marius, Wolf, Bianca, Jannis, Cheng
## New Agenda Items
- [x] (JRG) CEP: Technical specification for creation, modification and deletion of conda environments
- [PR](https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/29)
- (MRB+others) We don't want breaking changes in this CEP. We want to decide what is a core spec and what is not.
- [x] (MRB) Any updates on sha256 and/or .conda?
- (CHL) `.conda` support live in prod; upload supported with anaconda-client 1.10.0
- (CHL) Still verifying `.conda` packages sync to CDN for conda-forge, bioconda, etc.
- (CHL) SHA256 completed development; in testing, should be rolled out in next release
- [x] (DPC) [Fiscal Sponsorship application](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/54) is due in 9 days.
- Will submit a vote call today.
- Will submit application by deadline
- Will withdraw if vote does not pass
- Will combine with [governance vote](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/pull/51) into a single vote.
- Vote will be open for two weeks.
- [x] (DJC) Should higher build numbers always take precedence when package version is the same? i.e. how to make cuda variants preferred over non-cuda variants?
- https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/11581
- Conda-forge docs imply this works for MPI variants https://conda-forge.org/docs/maintainer/knowledge_base.html#mpi-variants-in-conda-forge
- Could add [`track_features` to deprioritize](https://docs.conda.io/projects/conda-build/en/latest/resources/define-metadata.html#track-features), but that's kinda(?) discouraged. This is the behavior used in conda-forge for things like `"python *pypy"`, `"arrow-cpp *-cuda"`
- [x] (JRG) conda-libmamba-solver 22.6 is out!
- It works on your `base` environment!
- Compatible with conda-build
- Some fixes and performance improvements
- (MRB) how is mamba pinned for this one? are we post 0.24 so we don't break things for other bugz?
- [x] (KK) CEP: conda Capitalization
- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/31
- [x] (DPC) PSA: Communication channel consolidation?
- We have too many places for people to ask questions / make announcements relevant to conda.
- Look for a proposal later this summer.
- [x] (KO) CEP: Conda Release Schedule
- https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/26
- Proposes bimonthly regular releases (Janurary, March, May, July, September, November)
- Proposes using CalVer (YY.MM.MICRO)
- We are planning to cut a new conda release (4.14.0/22.7.0) by the end of July
## What is this meeting for?
Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.