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# 2022-03-16 Conda Community Meeting

* [Meeting link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
* [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://arewemeetingyet.com/UTC/2022-03-14/17:00/b/Conda%20community%20meeting)

## Attendees

| Name | Initials | Affiliation | GH Username |
| ------------------- | -------- | ------------- | --------------- |
| Dave Clements | DPC | Anaconda | @tnabtaf |
| Jannis Leidel | JL | Anaconda/cf | @jezdez |
| Cheng H Lee | CHL | Anaconda | @chenghlee |
| Bianca Henderson | BH | Anaconda | @beeankha |
| Matthew R Becker | MRB | cf | @beckermr |
| Marius van Niekerk | MvN | cf/VoltronData| @mariusvniekerk |
| Katherine Kinnaman | KK | Anaconda | @kathatherine |
| Filipe Fernandes | FF | cf | @ocefpaf |
| John Kirkham | JK | cf/NVIDIA. | @jakirkham |
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15 people total.

## Introductions

## Announcements

- conda-forge default branch migration from "master" to "main" is done!
- command to migrate branches in the API

    r = sess.post(
            "https://api.github.com"
            "/repos/%s/branches/%s/rename" % (repo.full_name, repo.default_branch),
            json={"new_name": "main"},
        )

- (JL) conda 4.12.0 out on defaults
- https://github.com/conda/conda/releases/tag/4.12.0
- https://docs.conda.io/projects/conda/en/latest/release-notes.html#id1
- (JL) conda-libmamba-solver 22.3.0 out (announcement probably tomorrow)
- not shipping `mamba` CLI on defaults (yet); want to avoid confusion, noise of having multiple package managers available on defaults.
- (JL) Deep-dive into the libmamba-solver work, in a week: https://anaconda.cloud/closer-look-at-conda-s-new-libmamba-solver
* (JRG) Based on deep dive docs at https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11059 - reviews welcome (super long, sorry!)

## Standing Items

## New Agenda Items

* (DPC) [Proposing minor, non-policy change clarifications](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/issues/41) to the [current governance doc](https://github.com/conda-incubator/governance/blob/master/README.md). Please join the discusison if you are interested

* (JRG) constructor stack [upstreaming has started](https://github.com/conda/constructor/issues/497):
* Still working on a pydantic-less menuinst
* Validation will happen during build in conda-build/boa
* Constructor and conda-standalone: role of `conda.exe/_conda.exe`
* Request to rename to `_conda.exe` across all platforms and keep it around
* Start as a PR/issue; will "upgrade" to CEP only if deemed necessary from discussion
* This would remove the need of ALWAYS having to inject python as a dependency

* (CHL/JL) Voting for [CEP 3](https://github.com/conda/ceps/pull/2) adoption
* Will "document while doing" as we set up the vote procedure
* ~~One week for last review of CEP; then call vote~~
* Call vote now; 2-week voting period

* (CHL) cbc.yaml behavior; what should conda-build pick up for this scenario?
* current behavior: - 2.0.4 since cbc keys only apply to host packages without pins
* open question as to what the expected behavior _should_ be
* easiest route may be to generate a warning in such situations
* update documentation for `bar` being pinned to 1.5

    ## recipe/meta.yaml
    requirements:
      host:
        - foo >=1.1
        - bar

    ## conda_build_config.yaml
    foo:
      - 1.0
      - 1.2
    bar:
      - 1.5

    ## versions available in the configured channels...
    foo=1.0.0
    foo=1.1.0
    foo=1.2.0
    foo=1.2.1
    foo=1.9.3
    foo=2.0.4

* (JL) conda-package-handling 1.8.0 (out on cf, in queue on defaults)
* https://github.com/conda/conda-package-handling/releases/tag/1.8.0

* (JL) constructor 3.3.0/3.3.1 (in queue on cf and defaults)
* https://github.com/conda/constructor/releases/tag/3.3.0

* Vendoring changings in conda (in TBD release)
* https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/11290

## Deferred Agenda Items

## Outstanding Items From the Previous Meeting

([Previous meeting notes](https://hackmd.io/GD0NBIu9SEuOCgF4-N5NHw?view).)

## Active Votes

## Subteam Updates

## Open PRs

## Discussion

## Action items

## Last meeting points

## What is this meeting for?

Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.