# DIF All hands - 2022 Open Call
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* To participate - This is an open call, feel free to join and contirubute
* Time: every 4th Wednesday, 5pm CET/ 11am EST / 8am PST.
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<h2 id="meeting-November-9">Meeting - 9th November 2022 - (1100 ET/1700 CET) </h2>

## Agenda

#### Welcome and introductions

* As always, our meetings are recorded and the recordings are publicly available.
- [Previous all-hands meeting recordings](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wgccmMvIImx30qVE9GhRKWWv3vmL2ZyUauuKx3IfRmA/edit#gid=2039757024)
- [All DIF meeting recordings archive](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wgccmMvIImx30qVE9GhRKWWv3vmL2ZyUauuKx3IfRmA/)
- [DIF All-hands public Discord](https://discord.gg/MYVTwkNU3T)

##### **DIF Feedback Call**.
* These open calls are a space to gather feedback from the community and optimize our strategy.
* Held every Wednesday in two alternating timeslots, there's definitely one that fits your timezone! [Check our DIF calendar here](https://bit.ly/dif-calendar)

##### **DIF New Member Orientation Call**
* These open calls are for anyone new to DIF.
* How to get started, overview of our work and groups, and how to get the most from your DIF membership.
* Held every Wednesday in two alternating timeslots [Check our DIF calendar here](https://bit.ly/dif-calendar)

##### DIF Member Spotlight
* We have launched a new member spotlight format!
* Stay tuned for regular insights and highlights from across DIF membership
* Want to be featured? [Get in touch with us!](mailto:[e-mail])
* This month, Limari sat down to chat with
**PassiveBolt's Kabir Maiga**.
* [Check it out on the DIF YouTube channel here](https://youtu.be/j5gdlXXuij4)

##### Newsletter

- DIF Newsletter submissions close Friday, 9th December 2022. Please use [this Google form](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxsqoFyKOghBF3N6wUQkRX-BcUvr7ZvUGA_GO4GstycF2GfQ/viewform) to submit anything you think the wider identity community should see
- The DIF monthly newsletter has an RSS feed. Find it here - [DIF Newsletter RSS](https://feedly.com/i/subscription/feed%2Fhttps%3A%2F%2Fblog.identity.foundation%2Fauthor%2Fnewsletter%2Frss%2F)

##### DIF is hiring!
- As DIF grows and heads into the new year, [we are looking for an engaged, experienced professional as the new Executive Director!](https://blog.identity.foundation/hiring-executive-director/
)
- This remote, full-time role will involve representing DIF, growing our membership and delivering on our core objectives.
- We are interviewing immediately, for an early 2023 start!
- [See a full job description here](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/org/blob/master/Org%20documents/jobs/Executive-Director.md
)
- [Apply directly via LinkedIn here](https://www.linkedin.com/hiring/jobs/3380750986/detail/) or simply mail a CV and cover letter to [[e-mail]](mailto:[e-mail])!

##### DIF is delighted to announce two new SIGs:
- Internet of Things (IoT)
- DIF Japan
- Both of these to start early 2023
- Keep an eye on DIF channels and newsletter for info

<h2 id="groups" align="center"> 🛠️ Group Updates </h2>

### [☂️ InterOp WG (cross-community)](https://identity.foundation/interop/) ###
* **Timing update: now meeting every second week**
- Meeting **November 30, 2022** - [Recording](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/QG5bpP9bZHvNOZj6eq5158PQmdUQZU0KsfqkVOixTo2SDeEZSIxMV3Kxjj22G44x.7zeypi1ar6Wh9Wdy)
- [Overlays Capture Architecture (OCA) v1.0](https://bit.ly/3FhT38G) with Paul Knowles (Human Colossus Foundation)
- Nov. 2 Peter Langenkamp (TNO) presented about a cluster of interoperabilty centered on [TNO EASSI](https://eassi.ssi-lab.nl/).
- "eassi strives to improve the usability of SSI in real life by providing basic functionality that assists in issuing and verifying credentials to and from multiple wallets."
- https://eassi.ssi-lab.nl/docs/about
- [Recording of session here](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/1UDsr5Ixlr8SKfDi037LO5T0l-mqxNIL790Zady1vWkgdYLfJJY-92dqYvwP3xKC.s40U9yk0MSKApiMN)
- Survey insights - [Results Deck here](https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lRxa49ZJjrSiWx-4ldLAwWvin5wukenEIXjK5Rj9l24/edit#slide=id.p)
- Find the pockets of interop
- Which companies interop with what other companies; build bridges between the pockets
- Interop testing
- Don't boil the ocean. Start with small targets. Let the question "what are we trying to accomplish with interop?" guide the targets.
- Interested in a public assessment framework.
- Bonnie Yau of IDLab mentioned they're working on a framework, starting from (or modelled after) the Aries Agent Test Harness.
- Approaches to Localization
- BC Gov gave a demo of a localized wallet app with credential localization using OCA. (Link to demo pending)
- What other approaches?
- What does "interoperable" mean to different communities?
- Often gets thrown around in marketing jargon but what are some real metrics for defining whether something is "interoperable?"
- Wallet UX
- There might be some other working groups focused on UX already. There might be some overlap with interop.

### [💡 Identifiers & Discovery](https://identity.foundation/working-groups/identifiers-discovery.html) ###
* November 21st - [Recording](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/T0emEKPUYH5jofA8EApaPnNou4C7geE__hCxs2oGI1r1Vf46QJJNKLrZiHM0MfSj.iZ7XtSb94zwHkt0R)
* Topics discussed:
* Report from Internet Identity Workshop #35
* DIDs with public key as identifier
* Next meeting **19th December 2022**
* Topics include:
* Agenda creation/review/prioritization
* Advanced did:web topics, e.g.:
* [w3c-ccg/did-method-web#20](https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-method-web/issues/20)
* [w3c-ccg/did-method-web#63](https://github.com/w3c-ccg/did-method-web/pull/63)

### [💡 DID Authentication WG](https://identity.foundation/working-groups/authentication.html) ###
* This ongoing collaborative work is co-hosted with DIF by the Open Identity Foundation (OIDF) as a work item of the [OpenID Connect WG](https://openid.net/wg/connect/)
* Latest:
* [OpenID for Verifiable presentations ](https://openid.net/specs/openid-4-verifiable-presentations-1_0.html)
* [Self-Issued OpenID Provider v2 (latest update Sept 2022) ](https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.html)

### [🛡️ Claims & Credentials](https://identity.foundation/working-groups/claims-credentials.html) ###
* Workitem Status: [PE](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/presentation-exchange/issues) (v2.0) + [Credential Manifest](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/credential-manifest/issues) (1pm ET Thu)
- Work Item Leads: *Brent Zundel* (@brentzundel) & Daniel Buchner (@csuwildcat)
- Credential Manifest moving forward (Issues in Repository were triaged) -> Release for 1.0
- Presentation exchange v2.0 is out.
- No direct plans for v3.0. In the new year focus on documenation, implementation guides, etc
* Workitem Status: [Wallet Rendering](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/wallet-rendering):
- Credential Manifest points to Wallet Rendering specification (but no hard dependency).
- Acknowledged requirement for Credential Manifest.
- Interest from Block (from 2023).
- Create Workitem description. (in 2023), Ownership, Times, Prior Art.
* Workitem Status: [Data Agreements](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/data-agreement/issues)
- Work Item Leads: *Jan Lindquist* (@janlin) & José San Juan (@jose-gataca)
- Presentations around Prior Art.
- The Group's [running notes](https://docs.google.com/document/d/14p2Pc5jC_qvwmCs9X5CrydUjSS5YRZKbay7oqre3oZI/edit) are very thorough!
* Workitem Status (weekly): [Trust Establishment](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/trust-establishment/issues)
- Work Item Leads: *Gabe Cohen (@decentralgabe)* & Mike Ebert (@mikekebert)
- Submitted for Workgroup approval (Integration of Feedback from Juan)
- Focus to cut a draft version
- https://github.com/decentralized-identity/trust-establishment/pull/38
- call for review
* Workitem Status (Monthly): [JWT-VC Interoperability Profile](https://identity.foundation/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/) & [JWT-VC Interop Issues](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/issues)
- Work Item Leads: *Daniel McGrogan (@dtmcg)*, Kristina Yasuda (@Sakurann), Jeremie Miller (@quartzjer)
- PR for v0.1.0 is up (that points to the dependend legacy specification like PE (1.0))
- https://github.com/decentralized-identity/jwt-vc-presentation-profile/pull/75
- Latest draft will then utilize and point to newer specifications of, PE, SIOP, ...
* Workitem Status (weekly) [Schema Directory](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/schema-directory/issues)
- Work Item Leads: *Daniel Buchner (@csuwildcat)* & Jack Couch (@JackSophtron) & Martin Riedel (@rado0x54)
- Last meeting was chat only.
- Waiting for the following deliverables:
- Process definition for adding Schemas to the registry (@rado0x54)
- Use the data registry template as the creator has wished for :)
* Current topics for discussion:
- Optional "@context" Thread
- Holder Binding Thread ("Subject is represented by X, but can bind itself to Y during presentation of VC C")\
- DID Methods with threshold signatures

### [📻 DID Comm](https://identity.foundation/working-groups/did-comm.html)
- December 5th 2022 - [Recording](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/zIOgalzs7_xu3VGmec02Vs2otgwyme_dfPwjLseDN0eDHMsGF0C1bFkRtQHbs7D7.vlSqqb8g2GPg10ZB)
- Discussion
- Post-IIW Observations
- Agenda-setting 2023
- Group Management
- How does this spec group support?
- Tuesday Dec. 13th DIDComm AMA with Sam Curren
- 11am PT / 2pm ET / 8pm CET
- [Signup at the Eventbrite link here](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/didcomm-ask-me-anything-with-sam-curren-tickets-482576969707)

* [DIDComm Open User Group: GitHub Link](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/didcomm-usergroup/blob/main/meetings/2022-02-23-transcript.md)
* Meets on Discord: [Invite is here](https://discord.gg/Sdw8swxpDJ)
* Using [UnSync format, described here](https://hackmd.io/@dhh1128/Sk5_Gb2J9) to engage asynchronously in a set time period (typically 4-12 hours) at regular intervals to keep conversation & work moving.
* Discussion of the group writing a DIDComm Guidebook - feedback and contributions welcome! Potentially covering:
* What is DIDComm and why would I use it? (super high level)
* Why developing a protocol on top of DIDComm is a great idea.
* Protocol Design Basics
* Protocol Design Best Practices

### [🌱 Wallet Security WG](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/wallet-security/blob/main/agenda.md)
* **Meetings are now every two weeks, next meeting Tuesday 30th November**
- New Work Item - **Wallet Containers**
- A well-attended session at the recent IIW event has stimulated interest in creating a new work item focused on the concept of a wallet container
- [A repository has been established here](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/universal-wallet-backup-containers)
- Looking to find a suitable meeting time to start work in January:[Doodle Poll here](https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bWLNyxJd)
- Future agenda topic:
- Key recovery mechanisms

### [📦 Secure Data Storage](https://identity.foundation/working-groups/secure-data-storage.html)
* Discussion
* [User Controlled Authorization Network](https://github.com/ucan-wg/spec/) (UCAN) model and how it contrasts with decentralized approaches
* Value of JWTs?
* CACAOs ([Containers for a chain-agnostic Object Capability (OCAP)](https://github.com/ChainAgnostic/CAIPs/blob/master/CAIPs/caip-74.md))

### [🌱 Applied Crypto WG](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/crypto-wg/blob/main/agenda.md)
- Thursday 6 October 2022 - (3pm ET) Work Item status

- new meeting time 8am PST every Tuesday
- would like to bolster more attendance, would another meeting time change help more people attend?
- [Spartan ZKP signatures](https://github.com/decentralized-identity/crypto-wg/blob/main/work_items/spartan_zkSNARK_signatures.md)

### [✈️ Hospitality & Travel](https://www.notion.so/dif/HOSPITALITY-TRAVEL-SIG-242105321e1747f8bce776bf634a55b3)
* Ongoing work on creation of passenger/customer profiles for wholistic travel experiences - join the next call to discuss!
* added an [SSI Activity Tracker section to the H&T SIG site](https://www.notion.so/dif/HOSPITALITY-TRAVEL-SIG-242105321e1747f8bce776bf634a55b3#88f37833db754637b3142410c90a92ef). Alwys loking for feedback and additions!

### [🏦 Finance & Banking](https://www.notion.so/dif/Meetings-a243fc1d22e2458b87381ef41b9bffb8)
- [Meeting 38: Financial Privacy & The U.S. Constitution](https://www.notion.so/dif/Meeting-38-Financial-Privacy-The-U-S-Constitution-0886d5b03a79419baaaecff8e772e016)
- Presentation from [Nick Anthony](https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-anthony-042/). Nick is a policy analyst at the [Cato Institute's Center for Monetary and Financial Alternatives](https://www.cato.org/center-monetary-financial-alternatives). During this meeting, Nick will discuss some of the reasons that financial privacy is so lacking in the United States. Among these reasons, Nick will highlight the Bank Secrecy Act, third-party doctrine, and Right to Financial Privacy Act."
- [Meeting 37 - Five Lessons Learned from 3 Years of 'Open Banking'](https://www.notion.so/dif/Meeting-37-Five-Lessons-Learned-from-3-Years-of-Open-Banking-1-4c0aefbbe9ea4bbeba08e9cc39fff735)
- In meeting 37 we will host [David O'Neill](https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidon/) from [APImetrics](https://apimetrics.io/). APImetrics has been monitoring Open Banking APIs since the earliest days of UK Open Banking. Monitoring production endpoints and FAPI consent flows provides a lot of insights about how the Open Banking rollout has evolved. David will provide comprehensive insights into the state of the standard, its adoption, and performance. Topics touched on include:
- UK Open Banking Adoption different from 'World'
- Consequences of Non-Compliance
- Banking data is "yours" in UK and Australia
- "Synthetic Calls" - expand
- Technology Debt (COBOL)
- Sandbox Offer
- [Meeting 36 - Working Meeting "AML Survey"](https://www.notion.so/Meeting-36-Working-Meeting-AML-Survey-acaeb0b0ef9e44fdadc8fe4f72fedf90)
- [Meeting 35 - Decentralized Identifier and the State](https://www.notion.so/Meeting-35-Decentralized-Identifier-and-the-State-4abfe2d2572f4db0b3e33a5103df13b3)
- [Meeting 34 - Public Voter Registries](https://www.notion.so/Meeting-34-Public-Voter-Registries-2142584cef8a421aa1f75d040f270987)
- [Meeting 33 - Beneficial Ownership](https://www.notion.so/Meeting-33-Beneficial-Ownership-7101029317ff441e84b4fde01703aac2)
- [Meeting 30 - Intro New Co-Chair: Lennart Lopin](https://www.notion.so/Meeting-30-Intro-New-Co-Chair-Lennart-Lopin-80f2f4cb52d8496aa11565dca8c20e89)

### 🌏 [APAC/ASEAN Open Call](https://www.notion.so/dif/DIF-Asia-Discussion-Group-85bc823687e745c29ef5084f5e1f5802)
* Our APAC/ASEAN Community Call is a collaborative initative between DIF and the [Trust over IP Foundation](https://www.trustoverip.org/) (ToIP).
* We invite to you to attend the **next meeting Thurs Dec. 22nd at 9am CET / 3pm SGT**. See [DIF Calendar here for meeting details](https://bit.ly/dif-calendar)
* Last meeting November 24th 2022 ([recording](https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84627181636?pwd=ek1MOG56aXh6Zkl0ZU5JcnVHWHJ5QT09))
- ToIP Task Force updates
- Governance Architecture task force
- SSI Harms Paper
- Technical Architecture work
- AI Task Force
- IIW Takeaways

### 🌍 [Africa Open Call](https://www.notion.so/dif/DIF-Africa-Discussion-Group-a0309cb4a1d4461085683744d2955973)
* Join us on the next call 1st December 2022*
* [Nigerian Minister of Communications and Digital Economy, Professor Isa Ali Ibrahim (Pantami) wins Dubai World Trade Centre Award](https://concise.ng/pantami-bags-dubai-world-trade-centre-award/)

### [💼 Product Managers](https://lists.identity.foundation/g/productmanagers)
- Thursday Nov 10th - [Recording](https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/xYDySydNohFTx16xcVj8ueqyU38g5M4titVkfWtqPZF0KF0x9J_XOiOwJcyzLVNf.LFIgJfKFwj9522DJ) joined by Juan Caballero who is the Standards Coordinator at Centre Consortium to discuss Web3 and Verite solutions

### [Internet Identity Workshop 35](https://internetidentityworkshop.com/) - November 15-17th 2022
- DIF F2F event was a great success! Thanks to all who attended!
- IIW was intense, productive and insightful as always!

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