# 2025 Annual Retreat, 2024 Q4 review / 2025 Q1 planning meeting
**Date:** January 13 - 14, 2025
**Location:** Santa Rita Experimental Station
Participants:
- Kristina
- Eric
- Chris
## Homework
* Add all relevant work + hours from this quarter to [effort spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Nxa4HiCYmQ4oXa41XR7kBIpRoatxD-Efp0VBUpRLDk/edit?gid=774311338#gid=774311338)
* "July - Dec CCT DS" tab
* Update and Score previous quarter OKRs
* [2024 Q4 OKRs](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HQ7t5pH_3lZ6eNwWI137pJu97AvUFutDF7EcQLTvKNk/edit?gid=1038020054#gid=1038020054)
* Draft next quarter OKRs
* [2025 Q1 OKRs](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10HHDw2AtD-5wET7llwfa8uxXiLMLlbfSwENyEI-f_N0/edit?gid=1038020054#gid=1038020054)
* Review
* [notes from previous meeting](https://hackmd.io/PZilEg3AT_qh9mSQYdjBeg) and [annual meeting](https://hackmd.io/iltgSPr2R1OuVC-tQV75eg)
* Link above includes homework
* Suggest topics below
* Create a presentation & add it to the [2025 Q1 folder](https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1lbRHN8mSvg8R1gPqHnesGY_pA8vncLl2); summarize:
* Major accomplishments
* What went well, what didn't
* Plans for next quarter
## Agenda
### Monday
* 8:00: Kristina pick up car from motor pool
* 8:15 - 8:45: Pick up Eric & Chris
* 9:00 - 10:00: Tour of Campus Ag Center space for Drone Day
* 10:00 - 10:30: Stop at grocery to pick up food
* 10:30 - 11:30: Drive to experiment station
* 1:00 - ?: DSI team joining
* 6:00 - 7:00: dinner
* 7:00 - 8:00: board game (Unstable Unicorns)?
### Tuesday
* 8:30 - 9:00: breakfast
* 9:00 - 12:00: group presentations / discussion
* 12:00 - 1:00: lunch
* 1:00 - 2:00: [Johari window exercise](https://www.mindtools.com/au7v71d/the-johari-window)
* 2:00 - 3:00: impact metrics brainstorming session - make wishlist, identify what we already have and what we would need
* Leave around 3pmish
## Notes
- Instead of "Kristina takes over", "Kristina is promoted to Director"
- Working with each other on projects
- Easier when we had more people, and with 2 people on incubators
- Paying attention to when we can help during project hour (and standups?)
- New hire
- Teaching ideas
- Michele & Eric co-teach RNAseq in R (Michele uses Python, probably?)
- targets w/ babel whale (?)
- Challenge is too many ways to share new knowledge / professional development
- Sprint planning demos, technical vignettes, GitHub issues, short videos
- Idea: once per quarter, each member identifies a skill or some other professional development to learn and share with group members as an OKR.
- Impact metrics
- Pieces of this: talking to new people (and how to track, if at all), documenting passive unasked for positive comments, asking for testimonials, workshop assessment, effort spreadsheet
- Paid code review concept
- Could be a ton of work, especially for making improvements
- Reproducibility audit would be more tractable
- How high level?
- US-RSE code review group
- Investigating and suggesting tools, as a type of programming (but not actually doing them)
- Like what the Data Cooperative does a lot of
- Would need to disclaimer this a lot (YMMV, etc.)
- Maybe list types of consultations? First hour free model...?
- Discord:
- Use it for Fall Reproducibility series to kick it off?
- Move drop-in hours to Discord (so both sychronous and asynchronous help is in the same place)
- New projects vs ongoing work
- More incubators with grad students?
- Red squirrel
- Wrap-up meeting, next steps? They want more functionality
- Group rebranding...
- Computational research support, data science and x, reproducibility
- Focus group or some feedback from researchers on what different terms mean
- What is "research software"? What does that include? What do researchers think that means?
- Article: https://vsoch.github.io/2020/what-is-research-software/
- 2025 workshop schedule
- Individual workshops
- February: Eric re-teach targets
- April: Eric do HPC for R users with HPC folks (Chris Reidy)
- May: Kristina teach something...
- Viz series: most of the materials will be reused; do at same time (June); Kristina & Eric will coteach, with Devin as guest instructor again; start planning in April
- Fall workshop series: talk with DSI folks about collab; who will be second instructor?; have plan and start advertising by end of spring semester (early May)
- Impact metrics discussion
- Not as easy as business, how much money did you save?
- How else would you have done this work, if at all? What would have been the pros and cons?
- Ultimate question: How much money equivalent do we generate? (ROI+ concept)
- Peoples' time saved, new things that you couldn't do otherwise
- Offset by our salaries
- Jetstream ROI paper: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=8603169&casa_token=UYQqo5Zim-MAAAAA:BsyUTS26htMnAudsFPtOX3q_L-_RZIyGwV0vM-7Vbl-qj9TjvG5KWfEQWIJ8zUMb4RoNq5tOyQ&tag=1
- Our skills will stay here, while postdocs and grad students will likely leave
- How much would a workshop cost (in academia and industry)? (USF pay)
- Comparing how much it costs vs how much value they provide for us vs grad student vs an outside professional
- Case study for outside person
- People don't want in person, synch training anymore (TACC)
## Discussion Topics / Parking Lot
- Figure out trainings for the year
- DSI folks
- Talk about their training plans
- Co-teaching fall workshop series?
- Other annual goals
- New potential programming
- Code review as a service -- stolen from 2024 annual retreat notes
- Some examples:
- Institution specific: [Princeton](https://researchcomputing.princeton.edu/services/repo-review-consultations)
- Domain specific: [Digital Humanities](https://dhcodereview.github.io/)
- Better ways to learn within group?
- Technical vignettes, yay or nay?
- Work with Micheale(?) and Carlos on understanding how they use and teach AI