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Episode 6 of Slow Portals
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**Hello and welcome guests of the show!**

This doc has a quick walkthrough of the show notes, helpful links and a question bank of potential questions to ask on air.

Please feel free to make notes, ask Q's or correct anything you see.

Looking forward to our chat. 


**Main threads:** web3 data disclosure, sovereignty in online actions and obstacles to onboarding ppl to the ethos
**URL:** https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1lPKqbYAeOEGb
**Date:** Tuesday, Mar. 12th @ 1100 Eastern Time
**Length:** 45 mins w/15 min overflow period

**Conversation Flow:**

- **Welcome and Intros** [2 min]

Hi and welcome. This is episode 6 of Slow Portals now steadily hosted on Twitter Spaces

**Overview of the Namada rPGF program [2 min]**
This discussion series has grown out of the Namada discord around an exhange of ideas about how privacy-tech and developments in the tools people have available to enact their privacy, shift thought and behavior in online interactions.

By design the Namada protocol is geared to retrofit privacy features onto other existing blockchains in such ways as introducing shielded privacy for assets at rest, and then shielded actions to increase privacy for assest in play. Which is great at a protocol level, but what we've been discussing in the community is what kind of privacy narratives might these features enable, and how might it change how people actually think about their own right to privacy?

So Namada has a retroactive funding program as part of it's genesis targeted at rewarding public goods impact. The program allowed anyone to nominate individuals or organizations they wanted to cast a light on. And at genesis a portion of NAM tokens are to be distributed to all types of contributors, coders, technologists, policy initiaters, etc who have been highlighted through this program, among others.

**Reminder of the purpose of these rPGF Exploration calls [2 min]”**

These calls in my mind are like a 2 way portal, for community members of Namada to be introduced to new ideas and projects, and hopefully also to have people on our discussions who have done important work see a light casted on what Namada and it's community are building.
Today we are being joined by Mykola Siusko

Links:
Web3privacy now is a research project aimed at building a culture of privacy industry in web3: 
https://github.com/web3privacy/web3privacy

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Mykola Intro:


- Mykola is a marketing strategy proffesional and advocate for ethics in Web3 with a history of working at Apla, DEIP and NYM. 

- let him introduce himself 

**Key Points about Mykola:**

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- it's probably 10x more important to actually use privacy tools than talk about them. 


**Link to his nominations:**


https://forum.namada.net/t/batched-list-of-nominations-for-digital-privacy-contributions/42/31




**Possible Questions 
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Areas of Discussion: ~40 mins

General


- What are you working on now?

- Any advice for the fledgling Namada community - how do we stay strong in the early days?

- **How does your work relate to the broader space?**
    - Who does that bring to our attention and what are they working on?

**Background of Web3 Privacy** 

- What is web3privacy 

- How do you break down the components of privacy? How do you think about it in a way that makes the parts easier to communicate to people?

- you do alot of events - what is the focus and what do you hope to accomplish with these events?

**Current State of Privacy** 

- What do you see as current vulnerabilities we face in crypto?

- Privacy solutions - like Namada’s MASP, or zkemail, zklogin - what do you think is missing in from user adoption of these?

- What do you think has to happen in order to 10x ppls caring about privacy?

- you mentioned in a talk at ETHDAM 2023 that ppl often get dissolusioned with advocating for priavcy because they have this impossible, utopian vision of how protected their info should be, and that seems a near impossible ask at this time - how do you bring the topic back to reality here? 

- for you privacy is also an inroad to open up the discussion about human rights. 

- i was listening to an excerpt on a NYM call that you took part in talking about solarpunks and lunarpunks and maybe the  ideology behid them.
    - you hit on an interesting point that isn't talked about often which is that the problem with counter culture often isn't the ideas, or the ethos it is created about, but the scale. Or the ability to scale, which is often the same problem with trying to replicate anything. 
        - like a darkfi or lunarpunk manifesto works when it's a small community, say 100 people either distributed or regionally grouped. The ideas of peer-to-peer exchange, or personal currency works when it's a small group of known actors but becomes tough to coordinate, and possibly authoritarian when trying to grow this method to millions of people.
    - you summed an idea up with the statement "what technologies should we use that won't mean the end of history?"
        - which I think is a great framing. Our actions are patterns spread over time, and some things we repeat over and over. We can see where we've got with repeating a pattern of use into the billions with things like Google or Facebook that our repeated actions have created a present of monoliths. And we look at our actions so locally, what will benefit us now? Can i use this tool now for something, but we don't often scope out and look at what that continued action will build if repeated infintely. 
        - little example: i would much rather a future where I have 10 or 50 signal groups that I share and feed me in return with the best ideas that my chosen peers have, over a feed alogrithm thats generated for me. However, oviously this limits my number of inputs. That's a trade off 
        
