# Bianca Intro - Planning Document
This document: https://hackmd.io/@UPPMAX/Bianca-intro-planning

Material (rendered): https://uppmax.github.io/bianca_workshops/
Source (repo): https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshops/tree/main/docs/beginner

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**Active pages**
- [new planning page for intro course](https://hackmd.io/665LX1RTQtOZTRqmuDwafA?both)
- [new planning page for intermediate course](https://hackmd.io/@UPPMAX/Bianca-intermediate-planning)
- [Registrations](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1pkxMh_wTr1qu5qYZDX5h_ggmJ9Tb3J2jG_sT5E649ZM/edit#responses)
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Old page
https://hackmd.io/XYo_pDdCR1-LrQb30jsLpQ
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## Autumn 2024
:calendar: September 25, 2024 9.00-16.00

Drop-in: September 20, 11-12

### Lessons learned:
(as well as some ideas and questions)
- DI: send a reminder about account creation? it seems to be needed as some student fail to do it in time for the course
- DI: add information on VPN to the practical steps document
- DI: ensure that the course project has sufficient thinlinc licenses
- DI: ask for a resevation for the course so that the teachers do not have to stress about booting a node? although it is good to test before as it turned out on September 24
- DI: why so few registrations? Show-up ~ 50%, typically standard for online workshops nowadays, unfortunately
- DI: should we add a pre-survey questionaire? in registration form or separate email?

## Meeting Sep 18 13:00-13:45

### First:
- Decide on date for intermediate
- [new planning page for intermediate course](https://hackmd.io/@UPPMAX/Bianca-intermediate-planning)

### Status
- Status
- course project
- no GPUs needed
- number of registered
- 11
- number of part of course project
- 2
- email to users
- Diana sent this Monday

### evaluations: BC prepare summaries

- Students' confidence perfect
- login
- modules
- Confidence missing for <40%
- create executable scripts
- GUI transfer
- start interactive session
- Confidence missing for >40
- transit
- rsync
- submit jobs
- legal aspects of sensitive data (2)
- R: sure, 1 was confident and 1 was not. To me, this seems as if the teaching goal is unclear about this session. What is the teaching goal? Can we remove this?
- Alternatives
- revise goals and change content: maybe RB
- remove: RB
- revise goals and reduce: RB, BC
- Problem
- difficult to reach Lars
- How to proceed
- be back
- Keep doing
- overall structure & logical flow
- interactive
- helpers and individual help
- exercises
- "dynamics to keep everyone on same page"
- Enough time for exercises
- Basically Richel's :clap:
- extra exercises for the fast ones?
- [ ] [R will add to his part](https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshop/issues/40)
- Improve?
- more time for
- transfer
- slurm
- decrease jargon/terminology used in the afternoon
- perhaps use uploaded file in batch job
- not necessary
- Focus on FileZilla?
- Yes: R, BC
- No: P
- file transfer FROM Bianca
- intermediate?
- clearer what login from rackham is about
- [ ] [R will revise this in his part](https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshop/issues/41)
- more time for developing scripts
- [ ] [R will discuss this more explicitly/earlier in his material
- Batch Björn](https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshop/issues/42)
- how to scale up project and estimate workload and test running time
- BC can ppoint to documentation, e.g. https://docs.uppmax.uu.se/software/jobstats/
- BC+R: move to Intermediate, is already there!
- problematic to work together in shared document with accident deleting
- R: not problematic, learners can deal with that
- go through exercises
- -> Reduce monologues :slightly_smiling_face: :smiley:
- Other comments

### Reflections

- [Raw evaluation results](https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshop/tree/main/evaluations/20240419) with raw learners' confidences
- [Richel's reflections on evaluation results](https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshop/blob/main/reflections/20240419/20240419_richel.md), and [learners' confidences](https://github.com/UPPMAX/bianca_workshop/blob/main/reflections/20240419/20240419_richel.md#evaluation-results)

### possible changes

- don't forget file transfer FROM bianca
- use FileZilla instead, material already there at [the course website](https://uppmax.github.io/bianca_workshop/file_transfer_using_gui/)
- More time on transfer of files,
- R: at the cost of what :slightly_smiling_face:?
- [DECIDED] R: suggestion: reduce legal aspects of sensitive data by 15 minutes: R,P, BC
- R: suggestion: remove Q&A, which takes 15 minutes

### Schedule

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