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title: Experiments with rough surfaces
tags: [experimental results]

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# Experiments with rough surfaces


## To Do

* Identify good driving for S1 and QC12 formation
* Find good driving for density map calibration **DONE**
* Measure roughness change after long experiments
* Try S1 and QC12 self assembly 

## MEMO
* Good driving for calibration black sandblast **$f=53$ Hz, $A_o=140$ $mV_{pp}$ Sinu. Experiment nov/dic 2023
* Good driving for calibration glass craters **$f=120$ Hz, $A_o=240$ $mV_{pp}$ Sinu
* Good driving initial shaking **$f=53$ Hz, $A_o=150$/$A_o=160$ $mV_{pp}$ Sinu
* exposure time dense systemL: 47379. Exposure time dilute system or for high rate acquisition: 5575.
* Regular acquisition rate 0.0333 fps, acq rater for calibration 0.25 fps, acq rate for high acq rate 50 fps.


#### State points for S1 formation


| $x_S$ $\downarrow$ --- $\phi$ $\rightarrow$ | 0.8576 | 0.8476 | 0.8376 |0.8276 |
| ------------------------------------------- | ----   | -----  | ----   |----   |
| 0.509                                       |State1  | State2 | State3 |State4 |

[comment]: <> (| 0.524                                       |   State4   |   State3    |      |)
[comment]: <> (| 0.55                                        |            |      State5 |  State6    |)



#### State points for QC12 formation (TO BE DONE!)

## Supporting info

Measuring plate acceleration without sample at $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$.

Oscilloscope : $\Delta V=330$ mV (Peak to Peak). This means $\Gamma=1.66$ 
Multimeter : $V_{RMS}=126$ mV. This means 356 mV Peak to Peak then $\Gamma=1.79$


## Experimental runs

## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 2 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8484 \pm 0.0005$, $x_S=0.512 \pm 0.0008$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 07/06/2024)
FOLDER RAW DATA: 
acquisition0706_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State2

STATE POINT acq0706_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1264.17 Nsmallstd=3.8342013509986663
Nbigmean=1202.94 Nbigstd=0.23748684174075835
xSmean=0.5124080822244867 xSstd=0.0007651273609791492
phimean=0.8483598689655927 phistd=0.0005372457977013532



## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 2 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi= \pm 0.0007$, $x_S= \pm 0.0009$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 06/06/2024)

NOT GOOD, probably it is because I started from a configuration with a lot of hexagonal

## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 4 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8300 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.5134 \pm 0.0009$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 05/06/2024)

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition0506_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State4


STATE POINT acq0506_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1240.88 Nsmallstd=4.561315599692702
Nbigmean=1175.97 Nbigstd=0.1705872210923198
xSmean=0.5134269073307229 xSstd=0.0009157872982892216
phimean=0.830045081926865 phistd=0.0006507606104650056


## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 3 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8395 \pm 0.0006$, $x_S=0.5118 \pm 0.0009$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 04/06/2024)

Calibration done today

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition0406_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State3

STATE POINT acq0406_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1248.78 Nsmallstd=4.561973257264887
Nbigmean=1190.97 Nbigstd=0.1705872210923198
xSmean=0.5118458193070502 xSstd=0.0009143100861616719
phimean=0.8395257104236982 phistd=0.0006444689650546841


## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 6 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8201 \pm 0.0006$, $x_S=0.5127 \pm 0.0007$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 23/05/2024)

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition2305_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State6

STATE POINT acq2305_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1223.08 Nsmallstd=3.6432952117554236
Nbigmean=1162.63 Nbigstd=0.5030904491242107
xSmean=0.5126680710995792 xSstd=0.0007434289185213163
phimean=0.8201092715611114 phistd=0.000600880133907574


## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 5 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8096 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.512 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 21/05/2024) 

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition2105_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State5

STATE POINT acq2105_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1204.06 Nsmallstd=4.805871409016268
Nbigmean=1148.56 Nbigstd=0.5161395160225576
xSmean=0.5117933429740247 xSstd=0.001026271423642819
phimean=0.8095954081470977 phistd=0.0006767197678585644

## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 1 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.858 \pm 0.001$, $x_S=0.513 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 17/05/2024) 

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition1705_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State1

STATE POINT acq1705_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1280.87 Nsmallstd=6.732985964637084
Nbigmean=1216.35 Nbigstd=0.7794228634059949
xSmean=0.5129148713215428 xSstd=0.0013281477488110084
phimean=0.8581811857324151 phistd=0.0010258222826067078


## S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 3 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8399 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.5140 \pm 0.0008$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 15/05/2024) 

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition1505_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State3

STATE POINT acq1505_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1257.81 Nsmallstd=4.225387556189373
Nbigmean=1189.46 Nbigstd=0.6232174580353154
xSmean=0.5139631245416176 xSstd=0.0008446804551059552
phimean=0.839943193180775 phistd=0.0006959991419833928


### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 3 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8397 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.5140 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 02/05/2024) 

I did again calibration the second of may. This experiment was good.

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition0205_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State3

STATE POINT acq0205_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1255.76 Nsmallstd=4.737341026356452
Nbigmean=1189.47 Nbigstd=0.5376802023508025
xSmean=0.5135531580370004 xSstd=0.0009638999660491802
phimean=0.8396625442370542 phistd=0.0006915437642532146


### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 3 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8376 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.509 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 30/04/2024) 

THIS EXPERIMENT WAS PROBLEMATIC

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition3004_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State3

da verificare con printastatepoint

### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 4 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.828 \pm 0.001$, $x_S=0.512 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 29/04/2024) 
Ricomincio nuova serie dopo calibrazione
FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition2904_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State4

STATE POINT acq2904_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1231.33 Nsmallstd=6.95421454946567
Nbigmean=1174.64 Nbigstd=0.5919459434779496
xSmean=0.5117770596651149 xSstd=0.0014005582620782984
phimean=0.8279688382486924 phistd=0.001069558727595741



### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 4 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8297 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.513 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 25/04/2024) 

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition2504_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State4

STATE POINT acq2504_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1238.75 Nsmallstd=4.114304315434142
Nbigmean=1175.93 Nbigstd=0.9407975340103735
xSmean=0.513006597604821 xSstd=0.0008598825564280592
phimean=0.8297253376078995 phistd=0.0007666630467532691

### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 3 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8392 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.511 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 24/04/2024) 

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition2404_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State3

STATE POINT acq2404_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1246.8382352941176 Nsmallstd=5.114024241694273
Nbigmean=1190.8441176470587 Nbigstd=0.38630312425118746
xSmean=0.5114829748628212 xSstd=0.0010276721525006491
phimean=0.8391842829554375 phistd=0.0007488285058327861


### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 2 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.847 \pm 0.001$, $x_S=0.509 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 23/04/2024) 

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition2304_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State2

STATE POINT acq2304_Amid_SmallBig_pl_WithMask.csv
Nsmallmean=1250.3235294117646 Nsmallstd=7.2487972340274505
Nbigmean=1204.8101604278074 Nbigstd=0.47256663614755634
xSmean=0.5092647552948864 xSstd=0.0014594853141319784
phimean=0.8474710315774144 phistd=0.0010319153001039077

### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 1 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.8576 \pm 0.0007$, $x_S=0.509 \pm 0.001$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 04/04/2024)

FOLDER RAW DATA: acquisition0404_fps0.0333_spacer_startHomo_Amid_MEDIUM_ProLabo_Sinu_f53_A110_State1

Nsmallmean=1266.1121794871794 Nsmallstd=5.17237289874597
Nbigmean=1218.9839743589744 Nbigstd=0.1255739616933316
xSmean=0.5094800444272146 xSstd=0.0010230416077351245
phimean=0.8575916940647491 phistd=0.0007223381403810813

NON BENDED PLATE

Start
![InitialConf0404](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SklVwHUZ0.png)

End
![FianlConf0404](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/By_EwHUZ0.png)

![qs_VS_time_S1_acq0404_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/BkaCLrIbC.png)
![fracS1_VS_time_S1_acq0404_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/r1nkvSLbA.png)


### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 1 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.851 \pm 0.001$, $x_S=0.500 \pm 0.002$. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=110$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 05/12/2023)
Nsmallmean=1218.545842217484 Nsmallstd=8.449809726769088
Nbigmean=1219.5820895522388 Nbigstd=0.6881413306249659
xSmean=0.4997815212063029 xSstd=0.0017332042765744852
phimean=0.8512842310187041 phistd=0.0012580021148010383

NON BENDED PLATE
Start 
![acq0512_start](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/ryM610pST.png)
Frame 2174 (after 1 night)
![acq0512_2174](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/BJJExC6H6.png)
Frame $\sim 2900$ (after 24h)
![acq0512_2929](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SJXfgS0Ba.png)
Frame $\sim 5468$ (after 48h)
![acq0512_5468](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SJWOud1I6.png)
Frame $\sim 8800$ (after 73h)
![acq0512_8866](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/H1zuH7vLT.png)

BOOPS
![Fig_boops0512_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HJTyVXD8a.png)
Frac s1
![Fig_FracS1_0512_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HJMZVQwUa.png)
Clusters
![Fig_nClu0512_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/S1slBmD8T.png)
![Fig_avgSizeClu512_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/B1ZbHQw8T.png)
![Fig_maxSizeClu512_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/S1YWrQDIT.png)
Only q4>0.8
Start
![acq0502_start_q4larger08](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/BJszYOkUa.png)
final
![acq0502_final_q4larger08](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/Bk-mvXP8p.png)




### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 1 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.85 \pm $, $x_S=0.5 \pm $. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=115$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 04/12/2023)
NON BENDED PLATE
Start 
![acq0402_start](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/rJl41ChBp.png)
frame 916 (maxq4)
![acq0412_916](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/r1pgjC3H6.png)
Final (after $\sim$ 1 night)
![acq0402_fin](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SkYrkAnrT.png)
BOOPS
![Fig_boops0412_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/S1nTFRhSp.png)
Frac S1
![Fig_FracS1_0412_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/rJHW-ATBp.png)


### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 1 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.85 \pm $, $x_S=0.5 \pm $. Driving: $f=53$ $Hz$, $A_o=115$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 29/11/2023)
BENDED PLATE
Start 
![acq2911_start](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/Hy66Op3Ba.png)
frame 340 (maxq4)
![acq2911_340](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/S1tZjRnBa.png)
Final (after $\sim$ 1 night)
![acq2911_fin](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SJFROTnB6.png)
BOOPS
![Fig_boops2911_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/r10RtC2rp.png)
Frac S1
![Fig_FracS1_2911_Amid](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SkOGbC6Sp.png)


### S1 polyamid (Prolabo) State 1 SMALL L=15cm: $\phi=0.85 \pm $, $x_S=0.5 \pm $. Driving: $f=120$ $Hz$, $A_o=240$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. (acq 28/11/2023)
BENDED PLATE
Start 
![acq2811_start](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HkJlup2r6.png)
Final (after $\sim$ 1 night)
![acq2811_fin](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/Synfd63ra.png)





## Calibration

### Pentacol Experiment (june 04 2024, medium system, rough surface with anodization)

$L=0.15$ m, $N=170$, $\phi=0.095$ $f=53$  Hz, $A_o=115$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

after 0 adj
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_04jun24_fps025_adj0](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SyQWCL24C.png)

after 2 adj
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_04jun24_fps025_adj2](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HkpsYvn4R.png)





### Pentacol Experiment (may 15 2024, medium system, rough surface with anodization)

$L=0.15$ m, $N=170$, $\phi=0.095$ $f=53$  Hz, $A_o=115$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

after 3 adj
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_15may24_fps025_adj3](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HyrKgmfXR.png)


### Pentacol Experiment (may 2 2024, medium system, rough surface with anodization)

$L=0.15$ m, $N=170$, $\phi=0.095$ $f=53$  Hz, $A_o=115$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

after 3 adj
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_02may24_fps025_adj3](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HJ8p3JG70.png)



### Pentacol Experiment (april 29 2024, medium system, rough surface with anodization)
Very strange: today if I use $f=53$ Hz, $A_o=240$ I observe super high energy... Why? Mybe the amplifier was not at the maximum?

$L=0.15$ m, $N=170$, $\phi=0.095$ $f=53$  Hz, $A_o=115$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.
after 1 adj

![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_29apr24_fps025_adj1](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/r1oepyfX0.png)



### Pentacol Experiment (april 26 2024, medium system, rough surface with anodization, just after the series of experiments done between the 4-25 april)
$L=0.15$ m, $N=170$, $\phi=0.095$ $f=53$ (not sure) Hz, $A_o=240$ (not sure) $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

after 0 adj

![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_26dec24_fps025_adj0](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/S1EEbhYDR.png)



after 4 adj
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_26dec24_fps025_adj4](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/BJmqNqEmC.png)





### Pentacol Experiment (april 03 2024, medium system, rough surface with anodization)
$L=0.15$ m, $N=173 ?$, $\phi=0.097$ $f=53$ Hz (not sure), $A_o=240$ (not sure) $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

After 4 adjustment
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_26dec24_fps025_adj4](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/SkF5rwFW0.png)





### Pentacol Experiment (december 04 2023, medium system, rough surface with anodization)
$L=0.15$ m, $N=173$, $\phi=0.097$ $f=53$ Hz, $A_o=240$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

After 1 adjustment
![densFieldNormArea_ViewPoinGreenTapeacq_Pentacol_04dec23_fps025_adj1](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/rkX3Rs2rp.png)


### Pentacol Experiment (July 10 2023, small system, rough surface with glass craters)
$L=0.1$ m, $N=183$, $f=120$ Hz, $A_o=240$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. ExP time 5575. Acquisition at 0.25 fps.

before adjustments
![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/Bk04c9tth.png)

after 3 adjustments
![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HyCr5ctF2.png)

**$f=120$ Hz, $A_o=240$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU IS A GOOD DRIVING FOR CALIBRATION WITH ROUGH SURFACE GLASS CRATERS**


## Surface profile


## Preliminary tests

### Comment on the experiments done the 10th/11th of July 

Naive feeling that with rough surfaces you can go to high amplitudes without triggering piling up. But I see a lot of heterogeneous mobility in the experiment acq1007state3 $f=120$ $Hz$, $A_o=190$ $mV_{pp}$ SINU. After the exp I checked that there are signs of the bouncing beads in the less mobile zones where crystalline domains formed. I also cleaned the surface with kimthec and I saw a lot of powder on it:

![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/H1FGLa5F3.jpg)
Part of it was robably already there because I find a bit of it in my hand before the exp but the great part has been created in the exp.

Then I do a density field mesurement with the calib system and was quite ok. Bu then I checked with the loaded system and I saw mobility gradient and particle segregation: more mobile top right more small particles bottom left.
![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/BJgJ1biYh.png)
But from the calibration density field I woul expected the opposite. Anyway, after the 20 min of calib there was abit of powder on the kimtech so maybe also the calibration is moothing the surface...

![](https://hackmd.io/_uploads/HJeAResFn.jpg)


---


So heterogeneous mobility triggered by powder as happened few months ago? I rinsed the beads and I'll start the same exp agai to see what happens.

### S1 State $\sim$ 4 SMALL: $\phi=0.853 \pm $, $x_S=0.527 \pm $. Driving: $f=350$ $Hz$, $A_o=450$ $mV_{pp}$. (acq 30/03/2023)

Initial fast S1 formation followed by size segregation with a huge hex island in the center

Start conf
![](https://i.imgur.com/ahiePR1.png)
Frame 9
![](https://i.imgur.com/FxQbeCh.png)
Final Conf
![](https://i.imgur.com/SHSbdlH.png)
Over Time Boops
![](https://i.imgur.com/XiDSkWc.png)


### S1 State $\sim$ 4 SMALL: $\phi=0.853 \pm $, $x_S=0.527 \pm $. Driving: $f=350$ $Hz$, $A_o=300$ $mV_{pp}$. (acq 30/03/2023 BIS)

Hexagonal island metling
Start Conf
![](https://i.imgur.com/zLc69bq.png)
Final Conf
![](https://i.imgur.com/AkfayVV.png)
Over Time Boops
![](https://i.imgur.com/pkE2atH.png)



