# SCIM IG Meeting Notes 15 Sept 2021 # Attendees * Pam * Phil * Roman * Harvinder * Paul Lanzi * Nick * Bjorn * Matt # Agenda * Mailing list correspondance re: Charter * Nancy * Roman * Janelle * Phil * Goal for today: new revision of charter: draft 3 created: * https://hackmd.io/pY0-D9_AQNCI686F2VGHjg # Notes * Roman has tightened up the language, but also made the discussions of extensions and future experimental work a bit more vague * If we wanted some BCP work later, we might have to re-charter * Phil: there was a lot of work in the previous group to set things up for synchronization and concerning patterns are evolving. While we haven't fully quantified synchronization, there is a lot of momentum around it. * Suggest at least defining the next steps for moving this forward * This is not a solved issue but it is an urgent need for consensus * Roman: do we need a marker that a BCP is coming? All we need to say is the things we want to talk about, we may have 0 consensus. Could be that we never reach consensus and have no resulting deliverables * Phil: we may need to revise the spec with respect to the data in the synch discussion * eg, preconditions, eTags * With respect to pagination * Lots of threads * Nick W is committing to coming back to the group to collate data * Matt: Is now a good time to start a new thread on the topic of pagination?' * Phil: this might be a better topic for Zoom * Phil: there is overlap between paging and synchronization, both deliverables in the charter need consensus on the objective * Could start with consensus in the use case document * Could eventually revise charter to look for proposals based on outcome of use cases * Roman: encouraging us to get a WG by IETF 112 - need to get specificity on the types of work but not the outcomes/solutions * Choice: abstract current language about paging and drop the reference drafts * Roman: Sounds like we have the ability to have the discussions now, but make later chartering discussions about future deliverables * Phil: suggesting that we discuss "coordination of sync of entities between domains" using existing drafts and current experience, mention the technique of cursor based paging * Roman: the times we need a charter item is when there is enough specificity to agree on a scope * Phil: worried we won't get consensus if we don't have stateful paging, could be cart * Roman: even if there are only catches for simple errors, there is still an errata document, and therefore we are pretty well guaranteed to end up with a new doc #, so we should just proceed on that assumption