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# Minutes of ORSO meeting on 20 Feb 2023 2130

Present: Jochen Stahn (JS), Andrew McCluskey (AM), Tom Arnold (TA), Brian Maranville (BBM), Max Skoda (MS), Bridget Murphy (BMM)
Apologies: Andrew Nelson (AN), Christy Kinane (CS)

# Agenda


## 1. Review previous minutes and assign a note taker

Minutes approved

Actions from previous meeting:
 
- [x] ACTION1: AN to start this going. TA is going to create the agenda.
- [ ] ACTION2: CK to discuss with MS and contact a X-ray manufacturer
 
## 2. Reports from each working group
 
### Education & Outreach

* Integration of AI software into existing fitting packages. BMM has a project that has been developing Frank Schreiber’s

Create a sub-group for Data Analysis to work on AI integration. 
ACTION BMM & BBM to arrange a k.o. meeting

* Creation of a catalogue of reference data

Suggestion for longer term... create a catalogue of measured data & model to use as reference.
It is part of Daphne proposal... could begin next year(?)

* Update on the Constitution

Currently in contact with ISA regarding clause 2

* AGM date - Suggestion for online meeting:  June 12th pm 13th pm, 14th am (format is simply housekeeping/votes plus one discussion topic)

12th June Subject to confirmation from CK & AN

* News Mailshot: please can we write some news items during the meeting to be sent out soon

To be made from poster
ACTION TA & BMM. 

* ECNS Poster

TA, JS, MS create a poster.
Add contacts and QR codes & Daphne link
ACTIOM JS to create 1st draft

###  Data Formats

* CIF Format
Recieved email from Arie van der Lee regarding old definition of CIF for reflectometry. Discussion via email
Suggestion to open connection with IUCr at least, but CIF format does not look appropriate.
Format for Meta data consistent with Daphne/Expands => make link between ort file and data catalgoues (e.g. SciCat)
Would not modify .ort definition. 
BMM has some resources to put towards this.
Check compatibility between PaNOSC & .ort and nexus

ACTION: BMM organize meeting between AM, BMM, JS, BBM & Daphne to start process
ACTION: JS Invite Arie to meet us 
ACTION: BMM/TA Submit Abstract to IUCr meeting (IUCr2023 CommDat workshop)

* Merge of Orsopy

We approve the merge. Make sure there is version information & schema header

###  Reproducibility

* Bayesian sampling paper published! [Advice on describing Bayesian analysis of neutron and X-ray reflectometry 
](https://doi.org/10.1107/S1600576722011426)

### Data Analysis
* Import of .ort into Refl1D
* Export of .ort from NIST reduction (reductus)
* Browser-based reduction for benchtop x-ray in alpha/beta testing: https://bmaranville.github.io/reductus
    * exports to .ort and .orb
    * loads Rigaku and Bruker files


## 3. AOB

Suggested date of next meeting on 3rd April at 1100 UK time. (12:00 Europe, 06:00 US, 20:00 Aus)
To be confirmed by email.



