# Session 3 tier list Fear me mortals for it is time for a tier list! Thou will be judged, thou will be scorned, thou will have to do better next time smh. Before ![](https://imgur.com/RuYnGkZ.png) After ![](https://imgur.com/OyvLjJT.png) Wait what really? The world didn't even change that much. Except Sibir is back again, whats that the third time? Nice. ## A Tier ### France France has an income of 85 which is an increase of 35 vs the start of the session! His manpower also recovered nicely to 78k which means he can sustain himself for a long time in a war. I would personally go over the estates again, especially those juicy cots that aren't assigned to burgers. Speaking of burgers and trade. Move your trade capital to Genoa! (Hur dur dur but Milan owns Genoa so how can he do that?) ### Timurids Hot damn this nation was managed so well in the last session! Had big plans, my eternal rival, eternal Carib, decided to join the war on the Indian's side which suddenly change the dynamic of the war significantly! Managed to fight them to a standstill at a cost. Only now paying off its loans and that's perfect timing because the truce with the Indians is up in half a year! Still doing good in tech and ideas and it seems like it is going to be an interesting session. Income of 76, barely went up during the session, 63k manpower in the bank means it's ready for round 2. Did i mention how well it was managed last session? ## B Tier ### Mamluks Helped the Timurids vs the Indians and his reinforcements were clutch from time to time. Income went up to a nice 64 but could squeeze out more from trade. Manpower only 12k which is a bit low. But remember kids, mercs are not people they don't use manpower. Almost done integrating Hedjaz which will give him a nice boost as he has the states to state that when it's done. ### Bahmanis The first action of the new Bahmanis player was to declare himself an enemy of the Timurids. Found out that that isn't in the best interest for his nation and peaced out when pushing proved impossible, then Allied Timurids. Income is at 70 and looking good. Taking his time to eat up the remains of the southern Indians. He doesn't have states anyway. Should still take the COTS asap so he can make Coromandel his main trade node soon. ### England Mr. England said to mainland Europe fuck you all I'm leaving. Except for the staple port, that shit is cool, and also Flanders just so a dutch owns it. (Got to make them dutch somehow). Hell, he's even sending those flemish to the new world. Good riddance! 69 income and a decent sized army but let's be honest, its England who cares about his army? His heavy fleet is "only" 10 though. But with France as his BFF who could ever threaten him. ### Andalusia Yes dear readers, Andalusia is here! But Krediax, why did you put it in B tier? Well, its income is 66! Its FL is equal to that of Bahmanis. The biggest problem it has right now is that it's out of manpower. Nothing a couple of years of peace cant fix!. ### Muscovy Russi- I mean Muscovian bear it currently experiencing his Golden era. Can we get a :+1: in chat for him. Income is pretty weak at 48. And with 4k of debt, he doesn't feel very well, nothing a little Golden age can't fix though! He has the free streltsy button ready! Currently filling out eco ideas (or well trying to 1/7) but also needs tech 10 for that sweet Russia formation. As soon as he clicks that button 90% of his problems will be fixed. ### Bengal Good old nr 2 great power. surely he will be challenging Timurids and France for income lets take a look: OMG HE ONLY MAKES 38 DUCATS? HE HAS FREE STATES? SO MANY REBELS? ONLY 6 IDEAS? BEHIND IN TECH? But hey at least he's 16% Nepali. What is this shit? ### Pope Mr. Popeman keeps selling those indulgencies! He's making 58 ducats and took some land in Greece to expand there. Currently organizing a coalition against the Polish and if that's news for you, you don't pay attention to the discord very much. Manpower is a bit low though, but as I said, mercs are not people! Building value is surprisingly low imo. 2 barracks no regimental camps. ## C Tier ### Poland Nr 7 great power but apparently the scourge of Europe. Was going Prussian but, spoilers, you need Danzig and Konigsburg for that which you lost to Brandenburg. Manpower is low (and you know coalition is coming manpower edicts anybody?). Income is at 39 Higher then Bengal, so you got that going for you which is nice. It is going to be a hard war vs the Europeans! ### Oirat If Poland is a scourge in Europe then this is definitely a scourge in china. Currently in an already won war vs Zhejiang and Manchu and going to take 100% of them both! Still income is shit at 28. This nation really needs to form yuan. Swap some states around like 5 dev ob for 47 dev Liaoning seems like a good deal. I don't see why they used Hosokawas conquest CB over Oirat's horde CB though. Would save a lot of unjustified demand dip points. ### Delhi Delhi's income is 34 atm. And 200IQ readers now instantly remember that it was higher before the session well, that's correct! Take a look at this beautiful [income graph](https://gyazo.com/044b62b201bb0d9e0cdfbf147d961e17). High Devastation, High autonomy, and every province wrong religion will do that to you. Went through bankruptcy after the war vs the Timurids. That low income also means he's bleeding money while at peace. Cant disband his troops because he has low manpower and truce is almost up. It doesn't look very good for Delhi. He can form Punjab as soon as he gets tech 10 though. Currently at 8. Please stop collecting in Kashmir, please. ### Aztecs Do you think they are corrupt? Should have seen them 20 years ago! Corruption went down to 13! Using all that gold money to pay it down! Income is at 55. Tech surprisingly isn't even that bad compared to some places in the old world. Ideas are though 3! ideas. It could prove a big challenge to England if they don't snub him out quickly. ### Mewar Max manpower and using mercs. Should prob delete some mercs. Sure you are at low maintenance but unless you plan to merc up to the max in 6 months I don't see the points. Income at 43 very good for its size. Will be a do or die session for him I suspect. ### Kilwa Duckly is very happy about his income. But you know what could increase it even further? Deving your gold mines so they all have 10, like that 5 extra dev in Kilwa production could have been better used in one of the other gold mines. If your dev your gold mines to 10 you make 43 ducats from gold! 46 when the remaining autonomy goes down! It would give you the third highest income in the world. Behind in tech though so that is sad. That's why you dev the gold mines asap so you can hire lvl 3 advisors! ### Venice 58 income, Venice is doing what Venice does best. Making all dem monies! Is giving some of to cologne. Manpower is pretty shit, should prob sit the war out unless he wants to go heavily into mercs. Not much changed for Venice tbh. Keeping up in tech but falling behind in ideas. ## D Tier ### Georgia No, YOU forgot about Georgia again. Stop looking at me that way I promise I totally did not add this in at the very end. STOP LOOKING jeez. 25 income, slowly converting everything around him to orthodox. West wall might be in trouble, south wall is looking stronk. Lagging a bit behind on admin tech due to full coring everything. His entire nation is full cored. One of the few! No infrastructure build yet (.43 workshop, get it quick before it escapes!) ### Milan Technically fighting Livonian order but in reality just letting his troops attrition in the alps. Dont question it just go with it! (tbh if he merges his general will prevent it but its not this day!) 32 income, temples in every province very nice. Workshops in all but 1. Now let's get to work on those barracks and regimental camps. ### Cologne Good income at 32(32.49 unlucky I round that down) partly due to subs. Currently winning vs Livonian order but that seems won so so should prob start demercing a bit (even if just to prevent the loan next month) I wonder what he will get out of this war, and what he will get in the war vs Poland (if he is joining, I wouldn't but hey that's me). If i was him i would jsut go into denmark but he allied denmark so i guess not? ### Brandenburg Prussia light is here to kick polands ass and chew bubblegum! and he just kicked polands ass so i guess hes chewing bubblegum atm? Supdef please confirm. I assume he is going to benefit most from the war vs Livionan order. and I can see him gaining from attacking Poland as well. ### Denmark The HRE's stepbrother. Jumped on Denmark the last session after the OG player had to quit. It shows he still has a lot to learn. He is paying 3 ducats a month so he can have those extra couple 0 strength regiments around. Seriously you are only using manpower troops, you have a manpower deficit and you are over FL. Consolidate those troops! Income is at 29 thanks to daddy France. Should 100% hire some advisors, you are behind in tech get those points! Also farm your estates (shiiittt that remind me I didn't check that at all, farm your estates in general people). ### Majapahit 26 income, a couple buildings decent manpower though. It just needs to be at peace because autonomy is pretty bad. Just core your land, you still have some free states left and no easy ai around so you can lag in admin a bit. Just get Diplo 9 and build a spy network on whoever is keeping up with admin to get it super cheap. ### Mali 28 income. Could dev his gold mines a bit more.It Seems to want to peacefull co-exist with Songhai while he colonize the ivory coast. 5/4/6 tech and 2 ideas are pretty bad though yikes. ### Livonian order Almost in bankruptcy, 20 corruption. Good meme when he stacked wiped 2k cologne troops by sortie though haha. It seems pretty dead tbh. is going to lose a third of his country. Probably his forts. ## E Tier ### Friesland 26 income yay, 6 of that is from knowledge sharing though to Muslims! You would think he would give it to his allies but noooo- ohw his ally already has it, very cool then. It is going to form texas next session probably hype. Not really anything interesting to say before that. ### Portugal Got yeeted out of Europe but jokes on Europe, now he won't have colonial nations. 22 income and i using that to have 3 colonies at the same time. It needs some time to grow but certainly has potential. ### Hosokawa A whooping 1 idea! Behind on tech Could take the rest of Korea in this war, no clue what they will take though. 16 income by the way. ### Makassar 14 income, not looking so hot but Majapahit is protecting him. Has the spice islands and I would suggest giving them to the burgers for those 10% good produced modifiers, stacks nicely with the flat bonus to production they have. ### Brunei Sold some of his lands to Majapahit, and is allied with them. Income is bad at 17 a month and is using that to colonize South Africa? Now you all prob think he wants the Kilwa gold mines but he is allied to them too. (PS: Feliz it is quicker to Mexico if you just go east you know, the world is round! although has anybody realized the world is round yet?) ### Switzerland 8/7/7 tech, no ideas. I don't know man. Who needs tech right? gotta culture convert everything to swiss culture. [My man!](https://i.imgur.com/M6oTx3n.jpg) ### Ulm Was AI last session and isn't looking too good. But then again it never looked very good and he still grew last time so who knows! ### Inca Fuck it if they won't come to him he will go to them! slowly going towards Aztecs. Can he even reform off them? I could test it but I don't want to need to type assimilate 837 or something in the console to test it, that's so much work man. He's not alone though he has Charrua as his little friend to keep him company. Income is at 24 but no worries, when he reforms think off all that gold! ### Haida Ohw yeah kill those natives, kill them real good... wait hold up YOU ARE A NATIVE. Stop. That's illegal! He saw Florida having 30 dev and was like fuck that I want a 31 dev capital, so he has has a 31 dev capital now. (that's also why I put him above Wichita) ### Wichita Didn't you have Portugal establishing a colony next to you? what happened? Income at 12. Tech still on 1/1/1. But those are some sexy 30 dev marches though. ## F Tier ### Uzbek Yikes ### Byzantium Yikes, (you know taking a loan is better then debasing right Syth?)