# Campaign Campaign 5 Session 4 Tier List by a Boat guy A lot of nations exploded this time and we saw a surprising amount of new free real estate being available now, demanding to be coloured in YOUR colours. There were also some massive wars (some which still rage on) with sometimes no clear winner, yet. To check them out, check out the VOD from [Byzantic's stream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sYtbs0IC2k) Note: This Tier list does not rank the Nations regarding their strength, but how they did in the last session (27 years). Take it with a grain of salt, cause I just did it cause I was bored. # Start of the Session **Old World** ![](https://i.imgur.com/h1swWv0.png) **New World** ![](https://i.imgur.com/uSIyrKK.png) # End of the Session **Old World** ![](https://i.imgur.com/z9wo6yX.jpg) **New World** ![](https://i.imgur.com/nciUGg3.jpg) --- # THE Tierlist **Meme Tier - Best Tier** **Bahmanis** Snaking into Europe for no obvious reasons but for meme reasons (and cause Thunder went insane). **Norway** You died, but you revived and now the Natives know what Boats are (and in general tech). "Abused" the fact to insta finish a colony, if the capital gets forced moved there due to a peace deal **Iroquois** Declared on other Natives, but got shadow coalitioned. Lets see, if the Native player dies by Natives or not. **Cree** "I have 92 dev currently" - "How much does even a dev click cost now o.O" - "Around 620 mana" **Tondo** Doing dumb boat stuff when nobody else wants to do boat stuff. Lets see if boats can into space. --- **S Tier - made big/important moves** **Shanxi** Rose to the dominant great power in China, ate his former partner in crime Manchu. Will have a rather easy time to unify China now, as long as Bengal does not want a piece of the cake which looks rather unlikely **Bengal** The other big player in Asia. Has now full control over his Trade Region and swims in money. Also, can flip Nepal instantly, if a problematic war comes up and when he needs more mil ideas. Might be strong enough to just 1v3 the remaining Indians. **Hungary** Ate more of the corpse of Ottomans, can easily expand further into Anatolia since Bahmanis can hardly defend that land ------ **A Tier - made noticable moves** **Netherlands (former Holland)** Saw a weak Scotland and ate it. Now has basically full control of the English Channel and can easily conquer the remaining provinces of the British Island **Ajuuraan** Mamluks are dead, Ajuuraan happy, since it was the only big threat he had in that region. Behind on ideas and tech cause of shitty rulers, but has a very strong vassal in Butua. Has 7 Religions in his nations and thus can flip to basically anything he wants. **Denmark** After a rough start to this campaign, he is basically back at the beginning. Has big problems is further expansion, since the Prussian buddies in the South as a strong Russia in the east box him in hard. **Florence (aka the Pastablock)** Florence abused the fact that Nepals had a really shitty alliance block for defending him. Florence saw that and preyed on this. Currently in a war vs Aragon with Genoa, which also look very promising for the pastablock **Maldives** What is a Pirtes dream? To raid rich Nodes. Where are the richest Nodes if you cannot raid India? Europe. And guess where he is now? Right in Europe. **Punjab (former Sirhind)** The biggest winner in the Timmi war can get rather easy full control of the Persian Trade node. **Transoxiana** Although on the losing side on the Indians vs Timmy, still got land from The Great Horde and Oirat and has now Timmies to eat too. Massively behind in ideas, but everybody in that area is. However, Russia is looming with only a weak buffer state of Great Hordes inbetween. **Venice** Ate a part of Naples, expanded further into Anatolia and should get a same colour CB vs Bahmanis. Is the Sugardaddy for Genoa and Florence while only being allied to one part of the pastablock. **Kono** Has now full control of Japan after cleaning the mess up which was JP. Goes full Galley Naval, which seems memey (given how bad Galleys are), but he has 80% Galley Combat Ability. ------ **B Tier - basically same strength as before** **Prussia** Just chilled and integrate his Vassals. Alliance with Brandenburg for the double Prussia buddies. **(B)randenburg** Chill session for them. Since they have the Prussian ideas by default they form with Prussia the Prussia buddies and is a military threat going forward. On the plus side, Brandenburg is quite ahead in tech compared to his other European players. **Haida** For the sake of consistency, reformed natives won't get put into S Tier, cause they finally catched up and became relevant. Than again, Haida is the strongest one of the Natives currently (till Aztec reforms). Will be interesting on what the further goals will be. **Genoa** May look dumb, but he didn't gain anything in the last session but a massive war vs Aragon. The pastablock is poised to win that bankrupcy war which will mean more high value land for Genoa. **Brittany** A dead France in front of you and not eating him, interesting. Than again, got a few colonies going on, so he might just exile to the new world, if things turn bad. **Trier** Buffer state between Netherlands + Burgandy and the Prussia buddies, but has the Prussia buddies on his side at least. Also, in classic fashion, declares no-cb wars in Europe. **Burgundy** Expanded a little bit into Lothringen (former Austria). Has two corpses in France and Austria to eat. Could form France next session by eating France. **Russia (former Muscovy)** Integrated Vassals, released Perm, ate a little bit of the Great Horde. After potentially finishing the Great Horde has access to the rich Persia Node without any resistance. **Poland** Got a State back from Hungary but sandwiched between Hungary and the Prussia buddies. Outlook: Grim with Russian Vodka. **Bohemia** Lost provinces in the first war vs Austria but conquered stuff in the second RIP war vs Austria. Can still eat some parts of Austria but than there are only players left. **Yemen** Expanded a little bit in desert provinces but has a great military. Depending on how his stance is on Bahmanis/Hormuz he could unify Arabia quite easily **Hormuz** With the explosion of both Timmies and QQ there is a real shot to expand into the Persian Trade Node with its great trade goods. Basically a race for free real estate in the Middle East. **Mali** Payed off the complete debt from Aragon, has a really high interest rate because of this now AND joined the war in favour of Aragon and all his troops died. Besides this same as last session. Can look to form Morocco though for the nice missions. **Kongo** Just chilling in Africa. Has Exploration and should consider colonizing the Cape and strike a deal with Ajuuraan for the defacto end node in Zanzibar. **Tunis** Expanded a little bit in North Africa but didn't got any part of the Mamluks pie. **Rajputana (former Mewar)** Got a small part of the Timmi pie, just is Sikh now, which has pro and cons compared to Hindu. **Korea** Lost his navy in a war vs Tondo but still got Taiwan. Has a colony by Haida, which can reform of him soon. **Malacca** Fixed the rebel break away from last session and finally ate Majapahit. Made a colonizing deal with Tondo after losing badly vs Tondo in a Naval only war. Cause of that can form Malaya soon. **Dai Viet** Conquered the remaining Yunnan provinces Shanxi couldn't/didn't want to take. However, sandwiched between Bengal and Shanxi it doesn't look that great going forward. **Aztec** Still chilling and waiting to properly reform (IIRC). **Salish** Another native, but reformed already with help from Norway. ------ **C Tier - worse than last session, but still manageable** **Great Horde** Could be D Tier, but they have a more realistic shot at a come back, since QQ just goes boom cause of rebels. High risk, high reward for next session **Aragon** Could also be in meme tier, cause of selling his Islands to Bahmanis and Maldives which hurt his income a lot. Currently in a bankrupcy war vs the Pastablock, but his debt got payed of by Mali once. **Cocomes** Went boom cause of a massive war dec and being AI. Can still be saved, but very reliant on the neighbors to not just attack him again asap. **Portugal** Finally cleaned up Castile (which was Colonial). Since he is the only mainland colonizer he is reliant of Aragon not dying, cause his mil power sucks ass. Could end up as Sugardaddy though. **Ayutthaya** "Lost" a war vs Bengal, Bengal only took the Bengal Trade Node provinces and payed for them. Is in a really rough spot though. ------ **D Tier - Miracle needed** **Scotland** Bankrupt (IIRC), behind on tech and ideas and a scary Netherlands wanting the rest of the British Island. Either he will need to do god diplo or will cease to exist in the next session **Timurids** Lost a bloody and huge war vs the Indians and went boom cause of Rebels afterwards. Not even sure if salvagable at this point. **Qara Qoyunlu** I mean, it could be worse, but having Rebels everywhere while being heavy in debt and probably not being able to survive another player war does not make it easier. Biggest problem is the lack of decent allies for a decent comeback. **Manchu** By far the best nation to come back among those 4, but it will be a race against time and needs good diplo to be able to beat Shanxi again. Having Shia Rebels doesn't help either. ------ **F Tier - RIP** **Australia** You came so far and so close to recover and than Brandenburg simply said nope. **France** Not even Frenchi could save you **Mamluks** Do they ever have a good game and survive? **Yunnan** No white Chinese anymore on the map. **Naples** From the centre of Workshops to Nill. At least he is still alive due to the mercy of Aragon. **Nestlé Conglomerate (former Switzerland than Sus)** Just because you are the host doesn't mean that you can get special treatment.