# DWeb Org Design ###### tags: `dweb` ## Meeting 9 Nov 2022 ### Node follow up and strategy meeting - Conversation w Christina Bowen (start with this if Christina is on so she can choose to hop off when we move to regular items) - Christina: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JDtsLG2t3CdqpqhKYTHrFLLW9y-UUK89_U7M-fWrcCE/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JDtsLG2t3CdqpqhKYTHrFLLW9y-UUK89_U7M-fWrcCE/edit) - lack of clarity around expectations for nodes beyond in person meetups - things are pretty informal and nomenclature around DWeb Projects v DWeb SF v DWeb - relationship with IA and reliance for infrastructure although theres a different nonprofit + some folks there want us to be more independent - how we relate to the nodes and share resources + governance - moving organically has worked so far but arriving at a time where it’s good to have more definition around where we are and how we organize ourselves - there are some risks related to this definition and where it comes from + creating the feeling of more centralization - Ese: We’re seeing a lot of organic growth following DWeb Camp; What are the nodes about - Is it just cities? How will it feel more centralized or not? Being careful to ensure collaboration and agency continues - Ex. Bay Area: Oakland, Redwood City, etc. — How granular should it be? - Christina: As someone in a rural area, do I have to pick a city? We’re an hour away from Portland but we’re also several small communities - Ira: What do you mean we would lose somebody through this? - Ese: As we define things, check in on Nodes, asking if they join another or stay separate and collaborate? - Ira: Why do people want to claim a bigger area? When we started nodes, we looked at - Creative Mornings — with city chapters, guidelines, they find their own sponsors, united with a common goal - Ladies Wine Design — city-based, aligned - [https://www.radicalxchange.org/community/chapters/](https://www.radicalxchange.org/community/chapters/) - Antonia: Who is part of this and who is not? - City specific, remote, or groups based on interests? - Ira: Why do people want to start a DWeb node and not their own group? - Incentives on joining a movement; belonging to a movement; with these networks and chapters, they get promotion and communication support - Christina: If we’re starting a DWeb meetup in her community, naming it that might be exclusionary because “DWeb” is not something people might be attracted to - In a non-urban environment, it could be a hindrance - Ira: Difficulty in marketing DWeb vs. Web3 - Spread the use of the term DWeb - Christina: When we start it, share what this community is about, it’s hard for it - Christina’s background — Ecologist; Research and work in systems (natural and community) - Looking at dynamics of well functioning self-organization projects; Authority through expertise, fluid organizations and stepping back when - Nested hierarchies >> Complexities emerge - Rotating power - Ira: Look at the nodes/projects as subcultures; other examples she cited were brands that are trademarked - Brand vs/+ Movement - Trust, Safety and Identity tied to DWeb project - how to maintain that, how to ensure it grows and deepens - Example of a brand that is also a movement [https://zebrasunite.coop/](https://zebrasunite.coop/) - Next steps - Map out boundaries - what we know is happening right now and boundaries of whos in and out, rites of passage, qualifications and requirements for being part of this - If you’re on the outside, what do you see? - If you’re a Node lead, what do you see? - What’s the access, responsibilities that you have at each level? What are they stepping into at each level? >> Designing the interface at each level - Responsibility for nodes and node stewards - knowledge sharing to the members of the node and overall DWeb community - What we would be able to give to the nodes and node leads and what we’d be excited to hear back. listen to what’s manageable and how they want to share their learnings and share back Questions we want to answer: - what is a node? what can a node be? cities, region, focus/issue area eg design, governance - what makes you part of the dweb community? what is a dweb project? - how do we define the core of this — inside to outside of who is part of the community? - who can speak as our brand in public? - “(d)authority” — who has it, who decides? ### Node follow up and strategy meeting - Conversation w Christina Bowen (start with this if Christina is on so she can choose to hop off when we move to regular items) - Christina: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JDtsLG2t3CdqpqhKYTHrFLLW9y-UUK89_U7M-fWrcCE/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JDtsLG2t3CdqpqhKYTHrFLLW9y-UUK89_U7M-fWrcCE/edit) - lack of clarity around expectations for nodes beyond in person meetups - things are pretty informal and nomenclature around DWeb Projects v DWeb SF v DWeb - relationship with IA and reliance for infrastructure although theres a different nonprofit + some folks there want us to be more independent - how we relate to the nodes and share resources + governance - moving organically has worked so far but arriving at a time where it’s good to have more definition around where we are and how we organize ourselves - there are some risks related to this definition and where it comes from + creating the feeling of more centralization - Ese: We’re seeing a lot of organic growth following DWeb Camp; What are the nodes about - Is it just cities? How will it feel more centralized or not? Being careful to ensure collaboration and agency continues - Ex. Bay Area: Oakland, Redwood City, etc. — How granular should it be? - Christina: As someone in a rural area, do I have to pick a city? We’re an hour away from Portland but we’re also several small communities - Ira: What do you mean we would lose somebody through this? - Ese: As we define things, check in on Nodes, asking if they join another or stay separate and collaborate? - Ira: Why do people want to claim a bigger area? When we started nodes, we looked at - Creative Mornings — with city chapters, guidelines, they find their own sponsors, united with a common goal - Ladies Wine Design — city-based, aligned - [https://www.radicalxchange.org/community/chapters/](https://www.radicalxchange.org/community/chapters/) - Antonia: Who is part of this and who is not? - City specific, remote, or groups based on interests? - Ira: Why do people want to start a DWeb node and not their own group? - Incentives on joining a movement; belonging to a movement; with these networks and chapters, they get promotion and communication support - Christina: If we’re starting a DWeb meetup in her community, naming it that might be exclusionary because “DWeb” is not something people might be attracted to - In a non-urban environment, it could be a hindrance - Ira: Difficulty in marketing DWeb vs. Web3 - Spread the use of the term DWeb - Christina: When we start it, share what this community is about, it’s hard for it - Christina’s background — Ecologist; Research and work in systems (natural and community) - Looking at dynamics of well functioning self-organization projects; Authority through expertise, fluid organizations and stepping back when - Nested hierarchies >> Complexities emerge - Rotating power - Ira: Look at the nodes/projects as subcultures; other examples she cited were brands that are trademarked - Brand vs/+ Movement - Trust, Safety and Identity tied to DWeb project - how to maintain that, how to ensure it grows and deepens - Example of a brand that is also a movement [https://zebrasunite.coop/](https://zebrasunite.coop/) - Next steps - Map out boundaries - what we know is happening right now and boundaries of whos in and out, rites of passage, qualifications and requirements for being part of this - If you’re on the outside, what do you see? - If you’re a Node lead, what do you see? - What’s the access, responsibilities that you have at each level? What are they stepping into at each level? >> Designing the interface at each level - Responsibility for nodes and node stewards - knowledge sharing to the members of the node and overall DWeb community - What we would be able to give to the nodes and node leads and what we’d be excited to hear back. listen to what’s manageable and how they want to share their learnings and share back Questions we want to answer: - what is a node? what can a node be? cities, region, focus/issue area eg design, governance - what makes you part of the dweb community? what is a dweb project? - how do we define the core of this — inside to outside of who is part of the community? - who can speak as our brand in public? - “(d)authority” — who has it, who decides? ## Meeting 2 Nov 2022 ### Participants Christina, Mai ### Notes - how can we keep the momentum @ camp moving forward? - collab / conversations / resource library - healthy network - we know how to send resources effectively - dweb nodes - internal process - defining community membership - 3 part time folks - what scaffolding is needed for other nodes to grow and also stay coherent? - values check... - feedback loops? - crypto-centric trouble - scrappy org, mostly around annual event. how can we grow and organize - DWeb projects activities - plan to revisit the principles - how to have projects identify with principles? - Internalize principles, annual/cyclical reviews? - How about a review before Camp: What did you learn, what were the highlights of this year? - Make the principles part of their identity? - Camp as a kind of annual meeting, a drumbeat for the community to converge around - See ahead of camp, how nodes can update on activities - Ex. Metagov, highly aligned but not a node - Ex. Christina's node: In Columbia River gorge; 5 towns; Bioregional name? - Ex. [Lyndsay](https://twitter.com/ok_lyndsey) (outback in Australia), trying to get social buy-in, has support of linux foundation; define what is dweb (trying to change the world, get hands dirty); similar dynamics to Christina - rural location - Can it be more inviting than location? Have a bigger name? Exchange? - >> In person meeting is very valuable - Uses Kumu: mapping platform; "powered by Kumu", "dweb powered" - Brand alignment, signal of dweb? - Citizen: civic work is very local - Government mandated legitimacy? - Citizen as a verb, beyond a noun, defined by the state - Terms: gardener; weaver; inhabitant; - Commons - Local and digital commons, connection between the two? - Subset of people who led into this work - internal org - Christina's mapping project using Kumu - Was seen as one of many dweb projects instead of a way to see itself - 80 projects went to the vault to register themselves - Reboot of the architecture of the data -- Qs that would be asked - System mapping support for the governance track; Paper on moving from scale to subsidiarity, put next to Josh/Seth/Amy and show overlaps on how they're talking about similar/same thing - DWeb is giving Metagov a way to understand themselves - Responsive.org - What do all the nonhierarchal org structures mean? - Since 2015, has come to make consultancies, etc. - The Ready: Making a distributed team, selling services as org design consultants - Ex of a distributed brand that stays in sync - Podcast: Brave New Work - Tool: Murmur - Gradient of tools available to different levels of participant - Healthy boundaries - What does every one node have capacity for at any moment? - What kinds of invitations can we make to the community? - Community that has come to some Dweb event somewhere - DWeb project builders - Tigher DWeb group - How to go from DWeb events --> How to help be active participate - **Levels of participation** * core team * community widest boundary * define gradient between them - Be an ambassador: Use #DWeb hashtag; Talk about DWeb; Build DWeb projects; - Running sessions at Camp and meetups - Mapping: Way for people to find projects - Shaping next years' event - >> DWeb SF, or DWeb nodes? - Connect with Boris Mann: interested in coordination, lifting people up - How to lift people up and use DWeb brand, and lift other projects that aren't explicitly DWeb - Human interface project: decentralize interface - [Social Roots](https://www.socialroots.io/) - Cross group communication infrastructure; Web3 ready back end - UI challenge to navigate three layers: Subgroups, groups and groups of groups - Cross group tool is coming Winter 2023 - Working on mapping with Metagovernance - Wants to work on dweb project mapping by June 2023 - Plus two other mapping projects - https://merid.org/ - Run layers of the stack into each other - How to see these from the POV of the challenge being addressed? Cobudget reboot! Next steps: 1 - What are the boundaries? Outside in or inside out * What defines the groups and activities? 2 - Governance organization >> minimum viable governace? * Clear way to change policies and spend money ### Resources * thoughts on [how to run an amazing unconf](https://medium.com/responsive-org/how-to-run-an-amazing-conference-906c884e9d28) from *responsive.org* organizer (christina is reaching out to Robin to see if we can get some advice / other resources) * https://theready.com/ * Podcast: Brave New Work * [Cooperative Identity](https://www.ica.coop/en/cooperatives/cooperative-identity) * **Minimum viable governance example: https://github.com/CoMakery/self-organization-constitution** * [#HowToCitizen](https://twitter.com/search?q=%23howtocitizen&src=typed_query) * making decisions clear and available: https://www.murmur.com/ * Philip Sheldrake https://twitter.com/Sheldrake/ and [human interface project](https://hi-project.org/) * Boris Mann: https://twitter.com/bmann * https://cobudget.com/ ### TO DO * Mai to be added to dweb@archive.org - Sep 1 email from Christina * Mai add themselves to Metagov mailing list