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# MCs vs PD Mediation Notes | 04/06/2021 (9:10pm ET)

__Attendants: (29 @ 9:35pm )__

## Discussion (Lead By Oliver McKenzie)

- Dylan Strike (Death's Row)
- Davis shut down which ruined it.
- He gave up.
- Was told Davis felt nothing he said mattered.
- He was told Davis moved and said to let go or shoot to avoid Thad getting caught in the gunfire.
- Didn't intent to down Thad, feels bad it happened.
- Certain people there were talking over Davis and stopping them from speaking.
- They shut down all the talking, and Furtaw really didn't get to say anything.
- This wasn't Dylan's intent, too many people there or they didn't care what the cops said.
- Ender DeFrank (Legion)
- Legion didn't know, it was spur of the moment.
- Legion thought it was a meeting.
- **Oliver:** The talking over probably caused Davis to shut down.
- Dylan Strike (Death's Row)
- Was the first to fire on Davis and Thad.
- **Oliver:** Gun play ends roleplay.
- Dylan Strike (Death's Row)
- Took them to Devil's Disciples Clubhouse.
- Four took them to the location and there were others without guns out.
- They were left and everyone scattered when they were downed.
- **Nikaela:** Rule of 4 reminder for "hostile situations", not just for shooting.
- **Oliver:** Davis and Furtaw weren't upset about the rule of 4 being broken, but were upset that there was gunfire.
- Dylan Strike (Death's Row)
- Asked about rule of 4 exemption for these kinds of things as it is more realistic.
- Told to open a support ticket.
- **Oliver:** Some other MCs/Groups involved were not aware of the hostage taking.
- Ender DeFrank (Legion)
- Legion wasn't aware and brought the full club and no gear for it.
- Jason Jordan (GSF)
- Also not informed, the cops were out of nowhere for thme.
- Dylan Strike (Death's Row)
- Everyone was warned twice that two hostages were coming to the meet, there are 2 vods says him.
- Meeting was already planned, cops thing happened on top.
- Maybe game voice so people didn't hear it.
- Cops were brought to a large group of people though.
- Execution wasn't something talked about.
- **Oliver:**
- Communication problems.
- Gunshots cause others to join in and end the roleplay.
- It would have been neat to see what could have happened if he walked out.
- Davis said some reached out to him in DMs and talked it out a bit.
- We just wish it had ended better (this opinion was shared by Davis and Furtaw).
- Shedrick Nelson/Benjamin Clark (BCSO)
- It felt and looked like the whole city was after the cops the entire night.
- started with Davis and Furtaw but blew up afterwords.
- Ender DeFrank (Legion)
- That's correct, he also feels multiple parties were out looking for cops after.
- Dylan Strike (Death's Row)
- The plan was to go after the PD from the meetings.
- Not intended to pocket-wipe, blanket kill, or just down cops.
- They wanted more roleplay behind it.
- Thinks communication may have been poor if people got that idea.
- People were taking advantage to farm cops and kill them when they are spread thin.
- Shedrick Nelson/Benjamin Clark (BCSO)
- When this happens it puts every cop on edge.
- Code Red, groups of 4 in two cars.
- Officers react differently to all situations, causing poor experiences for the rest of the people in the server.
- Ender DeFrank (Legion) got shot for just punching a cop because of this.
- Ender DeFrank (Legion)
- Brought to attention from the report.
- 3 Different groups all working together not on the same situation.
- Does this break rule of 4?
- **Nikaela:** if information is shared and coordinated, it's a rule of 4 break.
- Brian Archer (LSPD)
- People on Hawick called for backup.
- It seemed personable.
- Tiago Gate (GSF?)
- Wanted to go solo, cause of the 4 man rule in that Hawick situation.
- So he ran off from their car.