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# Breakout Session notes #2: Formats and Interoperability
Zoom link: https://zkproof.org/workshop3-zoom2
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Moderators: Eran Tromer and Aurel Nicolas
Note Taker: Eran Tromer
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## NOTES
* Interoperability of what? Interop vs. standards?
* Plug-and-play proof systems
* Standardize cures, generators, hash-to-curve? (Also raised in Plumo session)
* Gadgets
- Calling convetion
- Specific primitives
* High-level primitives (proof systems, commit-and-prove tc.)
* Security properties and levels
- Which security definition (standalone, non-malleability, sim-soundness, UC...)
- Metrics (cycles, invokations, ...)
- Model (Fiat-Shamir instantiation, AGM, GGM)
- FiatShamir is a factor of 2 loss in security for "common" protocols (using round-by-round soundness in one the 3 recent ZK from LWE papers, applies to BulletProofs, STARKs etc.). Picnic2 (KKW) really did double secrity paramter for FS.
- AGM, GGM: specify the level _within_ the model, and the best known attack in the _standard_ model.