Data Science and AI Education local interest group at UoL: 4th meeting notes
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###### tags: `4th meeting` `Data Science and AI Education UoL`
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- **Call time and day**: Monday 27th March, 14:00-15:00 (GMT+1)
- **Meeting host**: [Luisa Cutillo](https://eps.leeds.ac.uk/maths/staff/5526/dr-luisa-cutillo)
- **Meeting facilitators**: [Paul Baxter, LIDA](https://medicinehealth.leeds.ac.uk/medicine/staff/117/professor-paul-d-baxter) and [Ayesha Magill, ATI](https://www.turing.ac.uk/people/business-team/ayesha-magill)
- **Call joining link**: [MS teams meeting](https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/ap/t-59584e83/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fteams.microsoft.com%2Fl%2Fmeetup-join%2F19%253aWx2E7m2vOgY7iXT3EY83nZWfH2OhTEt0gIlX_o1DL-81%2540thread.tacv2%2F1677762681879%3Fcontext%3D%257b%2522Tid%2522%253a%2522bdeaeda8-c81d-45ce-863e-5232a535b7cb%2522%252c%2522Oid%2522%253a%25225059c8a0-43a5-44f0-b487-8ec42fe4bea5%2522%257d&data=05%7C01%7CL.Cutillo%40leeds.ac.uk%7C4b6541290d034d8473da08db1b1f9f1a%7Cbdeaeda8c81d45ce863e5232a535b7cb%7C1%7C0%7C638133594840613889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=SNktIfcvEuME3xVy%2Beii32d8flQZ7QaKK8IxgiTvrzA%3D&reserved=0)
- **Private Github repo**: [DS and AI Education Local Interest Group UoL](https://github.com/luisacutillo78/DS-and-AI-edu-UoL-private)
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# 4th meeting
## Agenda
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| Agenda | Speaker | Time |
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| [Intro and announcements](https://slides.com/luisacutillo/4th-meeting-ds-ai-education-lig-uol-a645bf) | [Luisa Cutillo](https://eps.leeds.ac.uk/maths/staff/5526/dr-luisa-cutillo) | 14:00 - 14:10 | Complete
| New member introductions | [Barbara Summers, LUBS](https://business.leeds.ac.uk/departments-management/staff/357/professor-barbara-summers) | 14:10 - 14:15 | Complete
| New member introductions | [Xingjie Wei, LUBS](https://business.leeds.ac.uk/departments-management/staff/366/dr-xingjie-wei) | 14:15 - 14:20 | Complete
Follow up on previous topic discussion (Interdisciplinary projects) + Intro to Teaching Resources | [Luisa Cutillo](https://eps.leeds.ac.uk/maths/staff/5526/dr-luisa-cutillo) | 14:20 - 14:25 | Complete
|Collaborative exercise | Breakout rooms | 14:25 - 14:50 | Complete
| Reflections, discussions and Q&A | Everyone | 14:50 - 15:00 |
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## Collaborative exercise
*up to 25 minutes in breakout groups of 3-10 people*
*Please use this space to take notes from your breakout group discussion.*
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## Group 1
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### Interdisciplinary (alias *Cross-Disciplinary*) MSc Projects
From previous discussion our vision is to organise group projects where students from different disciplines collaborate while producing individual outputs.
- What’s in it for the students? Answer that question for every discipline involved – e.g., why will a computer science student find that project rewarding and further their career goals.
- Employability+Learning: The chance to learn how to work with subject domain expert as this is one of the key skillset that you can't learn when working by yourself.
- Give them a more experential learning by working on a specific application like say automated vehicle... This is beneficial to the MSc mentor too.
- Does MSc project refer to dissertation?
- ...
nb. Difference between two students working on one project or two students working on separate projects
Barriers:
Funding, HR restrictions, getting ideas/collaborators
Opportunities for collaboration
Pool of resources/central communication
- Practicalities: Timing and communication. What application domain knowledge is essential for the students and how can they acquire it? Think of communication and common language. When will data actually be available?
- Time management
- Shared resource based/email communication or discussion channel
- Look at existing examples to see what can be learnt from them
- Soft skill, learning how to work with someone/something/data they are not an expert in.
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### Teaching resources (for educators).
In our resources channel we shared the following links:
* [List of all research related content](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcontent%2F1469177%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_cc_url%26shareId%3Df2e%252FkBWPR9C2RIdmWbDebA%253D%253D) from the University of Leeds in LinkedIn Learning
* [Leeds Doctoral College Collection](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcollections%2Fenterprise%2F1~AAAAAANza4E%3D339071%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_collection_url%26shareId%3DNp%252FLDgONQjaSlnhQSqaYOw%253D%253D) - including development resources and information for each stage of the PhD
* [Thesis submission and examination collection](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcollections%2Fenterprise%2F1~AAAAAANza4E%3D432165%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_collection_url%26shareId%3DrtX7Y7jBQi%252Bxq0CsnmTpKQ%253D%253D) - key documents and policies.
* [Building Impact into research](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fpaths%2Funiversity-of-leeds-building-impact-into-research%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_path_url%26shareId%3DM0eUahfARwSWBOnjA1WmCg%253D%253D) - A self-directed four module course on research impact
* Resources on plagiarism in coding
https://www.geog.leeds.ac.uk/courses/computing/info/plagiarism.html
[Java Maven tool](https://maven.apache.org/) is good at checking documentation
* [Kaggle examples](https://www.kaggle.com/learn) (loading, training, metrics etc)
* [Advent of code](https://adventofcode.com/2022/about)
- Can you suggest other resources?
- GitHub education - good for opensource too and teaching version control to students
- ...
- Which kind of resources would you like to get access to?
- ...
- ...
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### Workshop planning
In the following we suggest possible workshop/ interactive learning for us. Please score them 1-5 (one is most relevant and 5 is the least relevant) and add any comment as you see fit. Add your own suggestion of training with comments.
- GitHub and version control with Git
- score:
- Plotting and Programming with Python
- score:
- R for Reproducible Scientific Analysis
- score:
- Live coding skills and tips
- score:
- Add your own suggestions
-...
## What would you like this group to discuss in the next meetings?
- Write here your suggestions
- ...
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## Group 2
---
### Interdisciplinary (alias *Cross-Disciplinary*) MSc Projects
From previous discussion our vision is to organise group projects where students from different disciplines collaborate while producing individual outputs.
- What’s in it for the students? Answer that question for every discipline involved – e.g., why will a computer science student find that project rewarding and further their career goals.
- value in emploiability
- learn interdisciplinarity skills, team work and collaborating skills
- more engagement with learning process
- Practicalities: Timing and communication. What application domain knowledge is essential for the students and how can they acquire it? Think of communication and common language. When will data actually be available?
- timing is a challange
- common language, common resources to make the collaboration quicker
- the number of students
- think of a trial
- Maybe longer time (not just summer?)
- students write a proposal to be checked by supervisors
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### Teaching resources (for educators).
In our resources channel we shared the following links:
* [List of all research related content](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcontent%2F1469177%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_cc_url%26shareId%3Df2e%252FkBWPR9C2RIdmWbDebA%253D%253D) from the University of Leeds in LinkedIn Learning
* [Leeds Doctoral College Collection](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcollections%2Fenterprise%2F1~AAAAAANza4E%3D339071%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_collection_url%26shareId%3DNp%252FLDgONQjaSlnhQSqaYOw%253D%253D) - including development resources and information for each stage of the PhD
* [Thesis submission and examination collection](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcollections%2Fenterprise%2F1~AAAAAANza4E%3D432165%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_collection_url%26shareId%3DrtX7Y7jBQi%252Bxq0CsnmTpKQ%253D%253D) - key documents and policies.
* [Building Impact into research](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fpaths%2Funiversity-of-leeds-building-impact-into-research%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_path_url%26shareId%3DM0eUahfARwSWBOnjA1WmCg%253D%253D) - A self-directed four module course on research impact
* Resources on plagiarism in coding
https://www.geog.leeds.ac.uk/courses/computing/info/plagiarism.html
[Java Maven tool](https://maven.apache.org/) is good at checking documentation
* [Kaggle examples](https://www.kaggle.com/learn) (loading, training, metrics etc)
* [Advent of code](https://adventofcode.com/2022/about)
- Can you suggest other resources?
- How can we access Minerva easily to sharev learning resources
- Talk to Jeff Gibill pro dc to education
- Which kind of resources would you like to get access to?
- Any other module learning Resources
- How to detect the content of Linkedin available resources
- Live coding resouces, tackle different cultures and neurodiversity
- Suggestion: asii cinema https://asciinema.org/
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### Workshop planning
In the following we suggest possible workshop/ interactive learning for us. Please score them 1-5 (one is most relevant and 5 is the least relevant) and add any comment as you see fit. Add your own suggestion of training with comments.
- GitHub and version control with Git
- score:
- Plotting and Programming with Python
- score:
- R for Reproducible Scientific Analysis
- score:
- Live coding skills and tips
- score: 1
- Add your own suggestions
- fine tuning pre-trained transformers, deep learning models, google colab (ask Martin Callaghan)
## What would you like this group to discuss in the next meetings?
- Write here your suggestions
- ...
<br />
<br />
<br />
---
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## Group 3
---
### Interdisciplinary (alias *Cross-Disciplinary*) MSc Projects
From previous discussion our vision is to organise group projects where students from different disciplines collaborate while producing individual outputs.
- What’s in it for the students? Answer that question for every discipline involved – e.g., why will a computer science student find that project rewarding and further their career goals.
- Authentic assessment - this is the way students will work in industry
- Diversity of backgrounds, enrichment
- Is there a link to new discovery modules approach at UG level that are being developed
- Practicalities: Timing and communication. What application domain knowledge is essential for the students and how can they acquire it? Think of communication and common language. When will data actually be available?
- Timings of different programmes,
- Protection for each student is something goes wrong beyond their control (e.g. dataset doesn't appear, what would be the mitigations)
- establishing a common language
- authentic but risks not the same as working for an employer
- USPs and the need to differentiate between different degree programmes
---
### Teaching resources (for educators).
In our resources channel we shared the following links:
* [List of all research related content](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcontent%2F1469177%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_cc_url%26shareId%3Df2e%252FkBWPR9C2RIdmWbDebA%253D%253D) from the University of Leeds in LinkedIn Learning
* [Leeds Doctoral College Collection](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcollections%2Fenterprise%2F1~AAAAAANza4E%3D339071%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_collection_url%26shareId%3DNp%252FLDgONQjaSlnhQSqaYOw%253D%253D) - including development resources and information for each stage of the PhD
* [Thesis submission and examination collection](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fcollections%2Fenterprise%2F1~AAAAAANza4E%3D432165%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_collection_url%26shareId%3DrtX7Y7jBQi%252Bxq0CsnmTpKQ%253D%253D) - key documents and policies.
* [Building Impact into research](https://www.linkedin.com/learning-login/share?account=57895809&forceAccount=true&redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Flearning%2Fpaths%2Funiversity-of-leeds-building-impact-into-research%3Ftrk%3Dshare_ent_path_url%26shareId%3DM0eUahfARwSWBOnjA1WmCg%253D%253D) - A self-directed four module course on research impact
* Resources on plagiarism in coding
https://www.geog.leeds.ac.uk/courses/computing/info/plagiarism.html
[Java Maven tool](https://maven.apache.org/) is good at checking documentation
* [Kaggle examples](https://www.kaggle.com/learn) (loading, training, metrics etc)
* [Advent of code](https://adventofcode.com/2022/about)
- Can you suggest other resources?
- can we share minerva content via teams?
- can we get a minerva sharing area?
- can a group be added to minerva? We need to ask IT?
- Which kind of resources would you like to get access to?
- list of previously offered project titles, ideas?
- case studies relating to sustainability initiatives at University
- who is leading which modules? What are these modules?
- Case studies / data analytics from other modules e.g. with industry links to real data
- Pools of co-supervisors willing to supervise interdisciplinary projects
---
### Workshop planning
In the following we suggest possible workshop/ interactive learning for us. Please score them 1-5 (one is most relevant and 5 is the least relevant) and add any comment as you see fit. Add your own suggestion of training with comments.
- GitHub and version control with Git
- score: 3
- Plotting and Programming with Python
- score: 3,1,1,1 (top pick from this group) - can there be some more advanced options too.
- R for Reproducible Scientific Analysis
- score: 3
- Live coding skills and tips
- score: 1
- Add your own suggestions
-...
## What would you like this group to discuss in the next meetings?
- Write here your suggestions
-
## Reflections and Q&A
If you have any questions or thoughts, please feel very free to contribute these below:
- Questions/thoughts:
- Links:
- Chat: