Using Qri Call - 09/23/2019 === Attendees: (add your name!) * @rico * @b5 * @chriswhong * @ramfox * YOU **AGENDA** * Intros * News & Updates * Peer Corner: Issues, Ideas & Bugs * Discussion: How can Qri Help? **News & Updates:** - Sprint R Review: https://github.com/orgs/qri-io/projects/9 - Sprint S Review: https://github.com/orgs/qri-io/projects/10 - Discussion: Qri.cloud "Replicate" idea - Beta testing Qri **Peer Corner: Issues, Ideas, bugs?** * Astro Update: * Jonathan Update: **Discussion / How can Qri help?** * X * X * X **Resources** * Project Template (https://github.com/qri-io/community/blob/master/using_qri/dataset_project_template.md) * Docs (https://qri.io/docs) * Tutorials & Videos (https://qri.io/docs/tutorials/) * Qri Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/ApGYqb) for Q&A and linking up with other qri peers and devs (asynch) * Qri Dev Calls (bi-weekly): “like live RFCs” We’ll be publishing notes from the calls onto the Qri Community github repo (https://github.com/qri-io/community) We want outputs of these conversations to take the form of actionable github issues. Download Qri, test drive it, and share your impressions (nothing is too big nor too small)& file issues on our github **Raw Meeting Notes** ISSUES: * What is the evolution of the Qri registry? * Decided to guide our technical work along use cases. If you're browsing datasets, move that to Qri Cloud (see all public datasets), If you're editing, use Qri Desktop. * What is Qri's POV on how Qri Desktop interacts with Qri Cloud? * Linking vs. Pinning Data * Pinning: i'll keep a copy (IPFS) * Linking: here's a version on my computer that works like a git repo (staging in git) * Will browsing & editing combine in the future? * Likely to follow compelling use cases. KN: Seems weird to have to do two tasks from two 'locations.' * Rob: Re: Download button. If part of what makes Qri is its distributed nature, downloading is antithetical to that. * Important to figure out how to present the notion of "rehosting" * This also leads to the quesion of what the right way to run qri locally is doing. I assume that as a naive user I'm running qri connect, which is running an IPFS daemon, and while it's running people might be getting data from me * Should it be running while I close qri? Is there a way to manage that, say, with a menu bar item? * What's the right way to manage that? * There are some different sorts of things you could be doing with Data on Qri that aren't exposed in the right way in UI. For example: I've got some data, can I see how I'm re-sharing it? * I've been using the phrase "follow" to talk about tailing & pinning dataset versions * This adds new complicated questions when interacting with the filesystem * Because there's the whole d.web nature it, is there a situation that's important, like sharing or re-hosting a dataset that I'm not necessarily working on. Is there something in my database, but not something that's checked out on my local filesystem. Chris W: I'm wondering if just getting the cloning is worth it, do we need to go full-tilt p2p to get value, or can we just use the clone functionality first. Rob: * I def don't think kill the download button outright * Maybe you could use a modal instead of a PDF. PDF strikes me as kinda weird. * I'm not interested in Qri for versioning. There are other ways I can do that. The primary concern is that it's distributed. We got interested in Qri purely because it's distributed. The thing we at EDGI * It should be straightforward to have a system where what gets published publically can be replicated easily. * We need a technical system that alleviates the requirements for data publishers to not have to either do a lot of work or not make a mistake * If that were the only thing, I wouldn't be using Qri. The fact that it's distributed encourages people to participate * I'm very interested in this notion of following or tracking * I was trying to find some time to sit down & think through the notion of following * If I'm looking at someone else's dataset, an important part of those things is for me to know if something has been updated and download it if I want * should it be dropbox style or git style? Am I actively collaborating * I'm not sure what qri cloud aims to be and what qri aims to be, but this connects to the problem of having qri being able to aggregate & connect data. Decentralized version of airtable. * I start with the basic things that are in Qri, and without getting ahead of myself, I want the foundations of my distributed filemaker or airtable, with versioning and everything else :) Kevin: *