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# Meeting - 28 April 2025

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## Meeting Info 

This is the UK Carpentry Community space for the UK Carpentry instructors, helpers and workshop coordinators (or anyone involved in training tech to researchers in general and outside of the UK) to get to know each other better, update the commmunity about developments, discuss issues and ideas, and encourage collaboration.
    
During these meetings, we will be conforming to [The Carpentries Code of Conduct](https://docs.carpentries.org/policies/coc).

**Meeting schedule: meetings happen on 4th Monday each month, 16:00-17:00 UK time, BST (UTC+1) or GMT (UTC+0) depending on the time of the year**

**Meeting details are shared via [local-uk mailing list](https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/local-uk) and [The Carpentries community calendar](https://carpentries.org/community/#community-events).**

- [Community's HackMD workspace](https://hackmd.io/team/local-uk?nav=overview)
- [Previous & upcoming meetings](https://hackmd.io/V3ReKkEESzqyCNxWJdulOw#Meeting-Notes)
- [Meeting notes template](https://hackmd.io/hgl1tYhOTTqDsIDwjArE5w)
- [Chairing rota](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F)
- [Guest speaker sign-up](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)

**Zoom URL:** https://zoom.us/j/95360073649

## Meeting Minutes

- **Chair:** Dimitrios Theodorakis
    - _Make sure to email <instructor.training@carpentries.org> after the meeting with trainee instructors who joined for the community discussion as part of the checkout_
- **Timekeeper:**
- **Notetaker:**  Andrew Walker

### Agenda
0. Assign notetaker & timekeeper
1. Sign in & ice-breaker
1. Review of actions
2. Announcements 
3. Guest speaker + Q&A
4. Instructor Training checkout questions
5. Wrap-up/AOB

### Sign-in

Name/pronoun if you like/ institution / optionally put "(checkout)" if you are here for the Instructor Training checkout:

1. Dimitrios Theodorakis (he/him), Met Office
2. Andrew Walker (he/him), Oxford
3. Juan Herrera (he/him), EPCC (The University of Edinburgh)
4. Esther Turner (she/her), National Oceanography Centre
5. Olexandr Konovalov (he/him), University of St Andrews
6. Toan Phung (he/him), University of Dundee
7. Aman Goel (he/him), University of Mancester - Software Sustainability Institute
8. Andrew Gait (he/him), RSE, University of Manchester
...

### Notes

**Icebreaker:** who are you and tell us about an object you can reach without moving. We had a water bottle, a plastic duck, a wooden thing with hair, a flag, a mug, a chess board, a tiny monitor, and a 3D printed dragon.

**CW25:** Aman going. Andrew Gait contributing to knowledge exchange session (merged from multiple submissions) Details still being put togehter.

**RSECon:** deadline is Friday. Sounds like a training proposal is going in. To be submitted this week, figuring out what will be delivered around last years [Competencies Toolkit session](https://docs.google.com/document/d/12TowPO-FetFPPuaKb1oievZ0PUUucKv81eoOMwrkuo8/edit?usp=sharing) (DIRECT). Training _of_ RSEs rather than training _by_ RSEs. There may be a seperate proposal on [training](https://docs.google.com/document/d/100WsS42F8-gBXtt8BXRKOGuY9KOv-PnF2zXTaOU4bTI/edit?usp=sharing) - follow on from Competencies (DIRECT) work. Teaching and training SIG (has a slack channel) should be launched at the meeting this year.

**Announcements and Updates** 

[Olexandr] We have now completed and approved Ukrainian translation of the Git lesson, available at https://ukrainian-carpentries.github.io/git-novice/, and established an initial version of the Ukrainian Carpentries Community webpage at https://ukrainian-carpentries.github.io/

[Aman] Ran pilot [FAIR research software course](https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/fair-research-software/) for UKRI. Potential to move to main capentries curriculumn tracked by an [issue](https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/fair-research-software/issues/185)

[Olexandr] will be helping deliver a instructor training course online, 20-23 May.

**Teaching compiled languages - discussion started by Dimitrios** Presumably the first thing is to see a compiler compiling "hello world!". Does the course need to be longer? Setup issues? Do users have permissions to compile things on their computers? Makefiles or not makefiles. How many times do people need to invoke the compiler? Is the goal to teach Fortran or to teach how to get the most out of the system? Feedback as issues here would be helpful https://github.com/carpentries-incubator/intro-to-modern-fortran/ with rendered first three lessons here: https://www.astropython.com/intro-to-modern-fortran/

**Next meeting**: As previously agreed, next meeting is Tuesday 20th May 16:00 (to avoid bank holiday and school holidays).