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# Meeting - 22 September 2025

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## Meeting Info 

This is the UK Carpentry Community space for the UK Carpentry instructors, helpers and workshop coordinators (or anyone involved in training tech to researchers in general and outside of the UK) to get to know each other better, update the commmunity about developments, discuss issues and ideas, and encourage collaboration.
    
During these meetings, we will be conforming to [The Carpentries Code of Conduct](https://docs.carpentries.org/policies/coc).

**Meeting schedule: meetings happen on 4th Monday each month, 16:00-17:00 UK time, BST (UTC+1) or GMT (UTC+0) depending on the time of the year**

**Meeting details are shared via [local-uk mailing list](https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/local-uk) and [The Carpentries community calendar](https://carpentries.org/community/#community-events).**

- [Community's HackMD workspace](https://hackmd.io/team/local-uk?nav=overview)
- [Previous & upcoming meetings](https://hackmd.io/V3ReKkEESzqyCNxWJdulOw#Meeting-Notes)
- [Meeting notes template](https://hackmd.io/hgl1tYhOTTqDsIDwjArE5w)
- [Chairing rota](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkPK1Si7F)
- [Guest speaker sign-up](https://hackmd.io/@local-uk/rkkzBTLOd)

**Zoom URL:** https://zoom.us/j/95360073649

## Meeting Minutes

- **Chair:** Aman Goel / Aleks Nenadic
    - _Make sure to email <instructor.training@carpentries.org> after the meeting with trainee instructors who joined for the community discussion as part of the checkout_
- **Timekeeper:**
- **Notetaker:** 

### Agenda

0. Assign notetaker & timekeeper
1. Sign in & ice-breaker
1. Review of actions
2. Announcements 
3. Guest speaker + Q&A
4. Instructor Training checkout questions
5. Wrap-up/AOB

### Sign-in

Name/pronoun if you like/ institution / optionally put "(checkout)" if you are here for the Instructor Training checkout:

1. Sara Villa (she/her)/ OLS- Turing Way- DSxHE/ (checkout) 
2. Samantha Ahern (she/her) / UCL & The Carpentries
3. Andrew Walker (he/him) / University of Oxford
4. Olexandr Konovalov (he/him) / University of St Andrews
5. Jannetta Steyn (sher/her) / Newcastle University
6. Colin Sauze (he/him) / National Oceanography Centre
7. Ella Kaye (she/her) / University of Warwick (checkout)
8. Esther Turner (she/her) / National Oceanography Centre
9. Evgenij Belikov (he/him) / EPCC, The University of Edinburgh
10. Phil Reed (he/him) / University of Manchester
11. Andy Gait (he/him) / RSE, University of Manchester
12. Aleks Nenadic (she/her), SSI, University of Manchester
13. Ramon Granell (he/him) / University of Oxford
14. Samantha Finnigan(she/her), Advanced Research Computing, Durham University





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### General Notes

- **Introductions and Ice breaker**
    - Ice breaker: What is something you're looking forward to in the winters?
        -
      - Morning frost on rooftops
      - Nice and clear and crisp weather (a touch of frost also nice)
      - How excited my children get about Christmas!
      - wearing my favourite jumpers!! +1 to jumpers!
      - I can wear jumpers again
      - it's the next time I have any major time off
      - Books with the armchair / blanket and hot chocolate
      - I just booked a NYE trip to the seaside in Lincolnshire with friends
      - Not having to toil at the allotment! (I need a break).

### Review of actions

- From the discussion about promoting and strategising for the UK Carpentries community:
- [ ] Decide if and how to merge with Training & Teaching SIG
- [ ] Coordinate with different training groups, get info on who can lead at each institution (e.g. who coordinates Carpentries membership)
    - [ ] AW: We can have leaders for each group - Oxford has recently become a Carpentries form
    - [ ] AG: Can also have adjacent communities like OLS in touch?
    - [ ] Have a Google form opened to collect this info perpetually - e.g. at the start of every meeting 

### Announcements

- Post announcements / links / call to actions and dates here!

### Discussion / Talk

#### RSECon25

- T&T SIG +1
- Training Community Day
- NetworkPlus +1 & related projects:
    - STEP-UP: https://step-up.ac.uk
    - DisCouRSE: https://discourse-network.github.io
    - CAKE: http://www.cake.ac.uk (Computational Abilities Knowledge Exchange)
- DRIFT
- DIRECT: https://github.com/direct-framework/digital-research-competencies-framework
- HPC carpentry

STEP-UP session at RSECon25: https://virtual.oxfordabstracts.com/event/75166/submission/127
https://step-up.ac.uk

Mapping the dRTP Landscape: https://forms.office.com/e/YhQQ0cGF7Q


**Training Community Day**
- Lightning talk slides: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FfTsnWFX8AETrlxv_UMAyG4hmTSWwmYD?usp=drive_link
- Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTV0kbliYR3n9XOBwxbML-TvnvEbXpqkLZwv_HdKgfx5gYjpD7YpFwtcjyJlg1hqfUzD9VWzjBhjuE6/pub


**Reflections**

- Evgenij - "reasonable perfomance SIG" seems to be something that many people who compleate capentries want to think about, have developed articvles and bits of training on profiling and optimisation: https://sig-rpc.github.io
- Jannetta - gave a talk on HPC capentries. Not offical curriculmn yet, but is in incubator. Three questions: (1) more domain specific conferences (looking for workshop hosts, instructors etc.). (2) If you are interested in hosting / teaching get in touch. (3) if you are interested in lesson development please get in touch. Or join HPC capentries meetings (every second Thursday).  
  - Perhaps [ELIXIR Compute Platform](https://elixir-europe.org/platforms/compute) would be interested. Ask Jonathan Tedds.
  - Maybe HPC teams at Universities - sometimes part of centeral RSE teams, sometimes not...
- Phil - put on spot ... welcoming, intense but not too intense. 
    - retrieval augmented generation
    - accessibility workshop - Eli Chadwick, Jim o Donnel
        - https://virtual.oxfordabstracts.com/event/75166/submission/108
- Aman (and others), training day. Satalite day organised last minute (two months). Lightning talks (see above). Keynote by James Hetherington (UCL) on genAI, then a buunch of short talks. Discussion of skills for Research Technical Profesionals (DIRECT), skills for learners, as leaders etc). Lots of work needs to be done. A heavy day for a Friday after a meeting.
    - 5th and 6th November. DisCourse event around leadership.
    - 27th November - StepUp event looking at competency frameworks. Extension of what was done at RSECon 

- Janetta: CarpentriesMagic: https://github.com/carpentriesmagic 

### Instructor Training checkout questions

- - [Checkout process - Get Involved](https://carpentries.github.io/instructor-training/checkout.html#attend-a-regional-call-skill-up-session-or-other-community-programming)
- The Carpentries Slack - https://slack-invite.carpentries.org
    - This community is #local-uk on The Carpentries Slack
- Also on TopicBox - https://carpentries.topicbox.com/groups/local-uk
- Different regional communities: https://carpentries.org/community/get-connected

### Wrap-up/AOB/CTAs

- 25 September: Special Guest Host: Jannetta Steyn presenting CarpentriesMagic - https://codimd.carpentries.org/69NZJLzLSKCZakTPsWpo7Q?both
- [SSI Fellowship 2026 still open](https://www.software.ac.uk/programmes/fellowship-programme/apply-fellowship-programme), closes 6 October 2025
- SoCRSE Community Survey Open until 26th September, https://society-rse.org/society-of-rse-community-survey-2025
- RSECon26 Call for Conference Committee Members until 10th October
https://society-rse.org/rsecon26-committee-call
- Research Software Camp: Careers and Skills in Research Software - 10th - 21st November 2025, Online, https://www.software.ac.uk/Events/research-software-camp-careers-and-skills-research-software
- Collaborations Workshop 2026 - 28th - 30th April, Belfast - Registrations open, Website: https://www.software.ac.uk/workshop/collaborations-workshop-2026-cw26
- Mapping the dRTP Landscape, 5th and 6th November, DisCourse: https://forms.office.com/e/YhQQ0cGF7Q
- 27th November - StepUp event looking at competency frameworks. Extension of what was done at RSECon [ADD LINK / INFORMATION]


### Action points

- [ ] [For upcoming meetings and the community - **action** and **responsible person**]
- [ ] Send email to Carpentries about Ella's check-out